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It looks like Saab offers the Sti short shift kit for our car. Do I need this or would something like the kartboy work. Thse two seem to be totally different designs. How can I tell if I have the Sti version 5MT?

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mucky said:
It looks like Saab offers the Sti short shift kit for our car. Do I need this or would something like the kartboy work. Thse two seem to be totally different designs. How can I tell if I have the Sti version 5MT?

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Matt
Matt,
I have installed the Kartboy SS into my 9-2x. You can get more information about this from the following thread:
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42193

The STi SS package comes together with the full shift assembly while the kartboy SS comes only with the lever. They both offer significant improvements in shorten throw however the STi SS costs more and requires more work to install. If you are buying the STi SS and getting it installed at a dealer, be prepared to spend lots of $$$. The kartboy is cheaper and can be installed relatively easy.

Hope this answers you questions.

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mucky said:
It looks like Saab offers the Sti short shift kit for our car. Do I need this or would something like the kartboy work. Thse two seem to be totally different designs. How can I tell if I have the Sti version 5MT?

Thanks,
Matt
Matt,

I just installed the RSR short shifter over the weekend, excellent product! It's very easy to install (as most short shifters are).

I would reccomend it for the price and the quality of materials.
 

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Kartboy

Just bought and installed the Kartboy shifter and knob. I'll be installing the bushings this weekend. A very nice improvement. Feels very solid and precise and, somehow, these characteristics translate to the rest of the car. It's not possible, but the car feels faster. Can't wait to see what the bushings do.

Install was a snap. I have a bit of advice to offer to those following the scoobymods instructions (linked in Trinifry's informative posts). Rather than bang on the new lever with a mallet to force it into the socket, use leverage instead:





  1. Set the ball on the socket and push down.
  2. Line up the holes on the shift-mechanism bracket with the holes on the shifter and re-insert the bolt. (You've already swapped the bushings and sleeve from the old lever into the new.)
  3. Attach the old shift knob -- a couple turns will do. This is to make the application of force in the next step more comfortable (since, ahh, the bare lever is sharp and hard.)
  4. Pull back on the knob and lever until the ball drops into the socket. It may require some force -- I weigh 185 pounds and I leaned into it pretty good -- but it'll go.
  5. If, like me, you were only able to insert the bolt backwards (ie, from the passenger's side), remove it, re-insert from the other side and put everything back together per scoobymod's and Trinifry's instructions.
Well worth the cost.
 

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Install was a snap. I have a bit of advice to offer to those following the scoobymods instructions (linked in Trinifry's informative posts). Rather than bang on the new lever with a mallet to force it into the socket, use leverage instead:
I should have waited for you to install it first :p
Would have saved me the unecessary extra effort. I read some ppl using the leverage approach but it seemed that they still had problems and resorted to the brute force mallet method. Oh well.. Its installed :cheesy:

And like notyou mentioned
notyou said:
Well worth the cost
 

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Just called my local Saab/Subaru dealer

Asked how much it would cost for a SS to be installed in the Aero...
$345.00 with labor..

Interesting they mentioned that its from "SAAB" not Subaru.:confused:

-Hummm, I asked aren't they the same exact thing?:nono;

-Well they look the same sir, but this ones from Saab...:roll: :roll:

-Ok, thanks...

Ya know, compared to what I was paying for a SSK on a 3 series BMW, thats really not that bad. Most "good" kits where in the 250-300 range...The price I got was with labor...

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-Hummm, I asked aren't they the same exact thing?:nono;

-Well they look the same sir, but this ones from Saab...:roll: :roll:
I would assume they're the same, but if you look here at the Saab one: http://www.saabcatalog.com/retail/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=Saab+Catalog&category%5Fname=Drive9395%3A9%2D2X+Short+Shift+Gear+Lever&Page=1

Then here at the Scooby one: http://www.subaru.com/shop/configurator/accessoryPopup.jsp?accessoryCode=TYF&model=IMPREZA&trim=WRX_SPORT_WAGON&soaModelCode=5LC

They look a bit different. And the Saab one is actually a couple bucks cheaper.
 

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well..

I went with the Sti SSK from the dealer. A friend of a friend works at the parts department and had one thats been laying around for months that they never could sell....:p So I picked it up for ~200.00...Only problem is that no one there had ever put one in before, so the quote of one hour doubled...So instead of 80.00 to install it turned out to be 160.00!

So far after having it one day, it does indeed work better than stock!


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Has anyone used both the STI kit and a regular short shifter like the Kartboy? Is there a significant difference between the shifting feel of the two, aside from alot of $$$?
 

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What about the perrin short shift kit...it is $80, you don't have to take out the shifter itself, and it is adjustable....anyone had any experience with it?

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notyou said:
Just bought and installed the Kartboy shifter and knob. I'll be installing the bushings this weekend. A very nice improvement. Feels very solid and precise and, somehow, these characteristics translate to the rest of the car. It's not possible, but the car feels faster. Can't wait to see what the bushings do...

...Well worth the cost.
How does the Kartboy knob feel? I was planning on buying the entire kit from the Kartboy site, including the bushings. For $150, that isn't bad, considering buying it all seperately elsewhere would be around $180-190. The knob looked to be of pretty good quality, and bigger is better for me. My 6'5" self has huge hands and I don't want a puny knob. Thanks.
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I bought the Kartboy SS kit with bushings and the knob yesterday, should have it on Friday and will install on Saturday. I will update with how it feels after installed.
 

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Trinifry said:
Matt,
I have installed the Kartboy SS into my 9-2x. You can get more information about this from the following thread:
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42193

The STi SS package comes together with the full shift assembly while the kartboy SS comes only with the lever. They both offer significant improvements in shorten throw however the STi SS costs more and requires more work to install. If you are buying the STi SS and getting it installed at a dealer, be prepared to spend lots of $$$. The kartboy is cheaper and can be installed relatively easy.

Hope this answers you questions.

Jeff
I bought the STi SS for $286 from subarugenuineparts.com and had it installed with my boost and oil temp gauges for $400. I'm not sure how much just the SS install would have been but the majority of the $400 install cost was due to the difficulty of the gauge install. In my opinion the Sti SS is the way to go just because it replaces the linkages, your not just buying a shorter lever which in my opinion isn't really a shorter throw, you just get the feeling of a shorter throw because of a shorter shift lever. Yes, the Kartboy is cheaper but that's because you don't get as much as you do with the Sti. Can't really compare the two.

Just my .02 cents.


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jdmpartstx said:
To answer this question:



No such thing. The STi has a 6-speed.
You can purchase an Sti SSK for the Wrx in 5 speed format. Its also available for the Aero, I had it installed about 2 weeks after I bought the car.


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Installed the shifter and bushings yesterday. Love it. Shifts are crisper, more precise. Build quality is excellent. Install was easy. Only had one problem, which was caused by me. I dropped the shifter on the garage floor when I was opening the box and it stripped/bent the threads, I did not notice this and tried to install the knob and stripped out the threads further on both the knob and shifter. Had to use a tap and die to fix. After that did not have any further problems. If anyone else does this you will need a metric 12mm x 1.25mm tap and die.
 

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If anyone else does this you will need a metric 12mm x 1.25mm tap and die.
Thanks for the info!
I'm thinking of designing my own and having a local machine shop work it up. Was this knob made of Aluminum or steel...Titanium?

If you know or could guess, What was the weight of the knob?

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I just installed the Subaru Short Shifter. Took me about an hour, Make sure you have lots of extensions. The nuts and bolts are a pain in the butt to get to. But it is well worth it. I also put the Subaru single boost guage on the steering column, sweet, now I have just the 20mm sway bar to put on.

Bob
 
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