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So I had about quater of a tank left, pulled into the gas station, turned the car off, and filled up on 93 octane... there was nothing remarkable about this experience.

I let the pump auto-stop, just like every other time, added about .25 cents extra, and then retightened my gas cap. Upon started my car, I noticed my Empty light was on, and the SID won't report a reading for the Distance to Empty. In escense, it thinks the car has no gas.

I'm pretty confused, as the gas gauge has never dne this before, and it's readings have always been correct. Did I put "too much" gas in? My morning commute is 30 miles, so should Iexpect to see the light go off, and the needle return to the "full" position tomorrow? Should I reset the computer by d/cing the battery? Or could something else be wrong, and if so, how do I go about diagnosing it?

I'm pretty stumped on this, so any advice would be helpful.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Just had this problem myself. Search fuel sender in the forums.

Essentially your fuel sender goes bad after a while and needs to be replaced. Gas tank needs to be dropped (few hours work) and new fuel sender unit needs to be installed.

Your gas tank might read fine after a while (a little after half full) or may read correctly, but once this happens it's bound to fail soon.
 

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Dropping the gas tank? A few hours? Wtf... so there's no possibility this could be a glitch that could be fixed with a simple battery disconnect? This is like a 300 dollar fix, if what you are saying is true.

I'm not quite sure I can believe the fuel sender went from working 100 percent to 0 perfect in three minutes. That seems crazy.
 

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Dropping the gas tank? A few hours? Wtf... so there's no possibility this could be a glitch that could be fixed with a simple battery disconnect? This is like a 300 dollar fix, if what you are saying is true.

I'm not quite sure I can believe the fuel sender went from working 100 percent to 0 perfect in three minutes. That seems crazy.
Believe it, this is a known problem with our cars. The worst part about it is that the fuel sending unit is in the gas tank itself. If I remember correctly when I got mine fixed under warranty the bill would have been something like $900 if done at the dealer.

The good part is, its not a fix that is imperative if you don't feel like spending the cash.:lol:
 

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Believe it, this is a known problem with our cars. The worst part about it is that the fuel sending unit is in the gas tank itself. If I remember correctly when I got mine fixed under warranty the bill would have been something like $900 if done at the dealer.

The good part is, its not a fix that is imperative if you don't feel like spending the cash.:lol:
Ok, I believe you when you say its a common problem, but my research shows the fuel sender is pretty cheap. So your saying like 7 hours of labor, roughly? That can't be right.... im thinking like 3 hours max...

Can anyone else provide some inight into how many hours dealers "charge" for this? I'm definitely going to buy the part online... I'm just going to have the dealer do the labor.
 

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Dealers charge 800-900 for the fix.. buy the part online and take it to a mechanic. Part and labour together will be 250-300.
 

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Fuel Sender Problems were quite common, as any regular member will know, a simple search will turn up a dozen threads. The original fix was to replace the whole furl pump assembly.

Later on it became just replacing the actual sender component. Yes, you have to drop the tank. 2 to 2.5 hrs Labor R&R and about 55.00 for the part at an Indy.
 

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Dealers charge 800-900 for the fix.. buy the part online and take it to a mechanic. Part and labour together will be 250-300.
My dealer charges 100 dollars an hour for labor, so that's 300..... how they hell are some of these other dealers coming up with 800-900?
 

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Fuel Sender Problems were quite common, as any regular member will know, a simple search will turn up a dozen threads. The original fix was to replace the whole furl pump assembly.

Later on it became just replacing the actual sender component. Yes, you have to drop the tank. 2 to 2.5 hrs Labor R&R and about 55.00 for the part at an Indy.
I tried the search and didn't have muc luck. Even a google search wasn't that helpful. My car has 76k miles on it, so should I just replace the entire fuel pump, since it has the sender unit in it? Do the pumps generally go bad?
 

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I tried the search and didn't have muc luck. Even a google search wasn't that helpful. My car has 76k miles on it, so should I just replace the entire fuel pump, since it has the sender unit in it? Do the pumps generally go bad?
no need to replace the pump, it should only go bad if you run out of fuel and burn it up.

The $800-900 replace is the entire fuel pump, a sender should only run $200 or so.

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2504265
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2504268

pages upon pages of this issue
 

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Thank you to everyone who responded...

I just called my dealer and talked to the parts guy. He said its a 3 hour job. They sell the fuel sender unit for $65 and I guess you have to buy a specifc o-ring for $20... not sure what the o-ring is for, but whatever, lol.

So all told, I was quoted for $385... when/if I bring the car in they said they can double check to make sure its definitely the fuel sender that needs to be replaced, before they drop the tank.

Last question...

I just found out from a girl I work with that her father is a mechanic and has his own shop about the same distance from my house as the dealer. He only works on european cars, so I was thinking about talking to him to see what he would charge... I'm wondering though if he can only save me $100 or so, maybe its not worth it... for this kind of work, am I better off with saab techs that know the car and have done this same work before? This dealership did all my warranty work over the past 3 years, so I do trust them to do a good job and not screw me. If it were less complicated id be more inclined to go to him to save money, but dropping the gas tank sounds serious, and I certainly want it to be done right....

Thoughts?
 

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Thank you to everyone who responded...

I just called my dealer and talked to the parts guy. He said its a 3 hour job. They sell the fuel sender unit for $65 and I guess you have to buy a specifc o-ring for $20... not sure what the o-ring is for, but whatever, lol.

So all told, I was quoted for $385... when/if I bring the car in they said they can double check to make sure its definitely the fuel sender that needs to be replaced, before they drop the tank.

Last question...

I just found out from a girl I work with that her father is a mechanic and has his own shop about the same distance from my house as the dealer. He only works on european cars, so I was thinking about talking to him to see what he would charge... I'm wondering though if he can only save me $100 or so, maybe its not worth it... for this kind of work, am I better off with saab techs that know the car and have done this same work before? This dealership did all my warranty work over the past 3 years, so I do trust them to do a good job and not screw me. If it were less complicated id be more inclined to go to him to save money, but dropping the gas tank sounds serious, and I certainly want it to be done right....

Thoughts?
Look for an indy shop that works on Saabs, dealerships or "Stealerships" as they are more commonly refered to just like to rape you, and dont even reach around to make sure you are having fun. Or ask that girls dad if he feels comfortable working on Saabs, but if you feel comfortable getting raped then by all means, to the Stealership you should go. :lol:

I personally cant afford to waste and extra $100 to line some fat guys wallet. But I have some good indy shops all within and hour from me as well. Happy hunting!
 

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Merriman, Have you looked at Collinsville MotorCars? Over in Canton/Collinsville. They are a volvo and saab specialty indy. They could help you out. Although it won't change price. Most shops charge close to $100/hr. It's not like you can do much else unless you do it yourself.
 

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Merriman, Have you looked at Collinsville MotorCars? Over in Canton/Collinsville. They are a volvo and saab specialty indy. They could help you out. Although it won't change price. Most shops charge close to $100/hr. It's not like you can do much else unless you do it yourself.
So how can dealerships be raping people if they charge the same amount for labor?

No I've never of collinsville motorcars... ill have to give them a call to see what they can do... have you brought your saab to them before? Do you trust them?
 

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Any decent repair shop can drop the tank and replace the sender.... no need to go to even a Specialist. You can easily save a Third on the Labor Rate and they'll do it faster. Just go with the tank as empty as possible, it takes time to Drain and Refill even a half tankful by hand.
 

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As JonV said, any capable shop can do the job. It's pretty simple. The labor comes from dropping the tank. I personally have not gone over to Collinsville yet. I've spoken to them a few times and they were going to do my tech II changes but I never got to it. Another guy from CT referred me to them as he uses them often for his saab.
 

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So I talked to my co-workers father, and I'm not sure he was aware of the specific part I wanted to replace. According to him and what he was referencing, its less than an hour job that doesn't involve dropping the tank. He said there is an access hatch either under the back seats or in the trunk. Obviously, he's not talking about the fuel sender unit, so what is he refering to?

Regardless he charges 90 an hour, so even if we were on the same page, the cost would almost be identical to the dealer that I have a great relationship with.

There's one other indy shop I've heard about in danbury, so I guess ill try them and collinsville motors, to see if they can give me a better deal.
 
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