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Well guys, i bought a 2008 saab 9-3 aero automatic about a week ago midway up into kentucky. I live in north Alabama so a 5-6 hour trip back was a good time to get a feel for the car. It drove great, has a part of suspension that needs to be replaced, as it vibrates a lil inbetween 60-70. Anyways engine ran smooth, transmission shifted like a new car, all seemed well for a car with 143,××× miles. I got a couple of short pulls in making sure nothing was gonna pop or bang. Ive previously owned the exact same car just with higher miles and a lil qtr panel damage, different color too. Most reliable thing ive ever owned, never put me on the side of the road. All i evwr had to do was coil packs and oil changes. Oh and the serpentine belt. Anywho back to the new saab, i drive it around town for 2 days and ran into my first issue. THE. KEY. WOULD. NOT. COME. OUT .OF .THE. IGNITION. i pulled up at a friends to ahkw him ma sweet new ride, went to turn the car off and the fob wouldnt turn into the lock position. When i finally did manage to get the key into the lock position, thw key wouldnt turn back out of it effectively making it where it couldnt be started when needed. Unplugging battery seemed to at random, allow me to start the car again, but same deal, key wont move past off position into lock. So i took to the forums to figire it out. Replaced key battery, no good, replaced car battery, worked normally a couple of times then started doing the same thing, i finally cracked and decided to get the ignition switch out of the car to further inspect and fix if possible, took me 3 hours of dismantling the entire center console from the radio to the back seat passenger vents. It all had to come out. I got the ignition switch out and inspected it. Outside assembly was stick looked like coffee or tea, i got it opened up to where i could see thw pcb and connections and instantly saw a prett good bit of corrosion on one of the pins and its where it makes contact on the pcb. Got a brush with hard bristles of some sort and scrubbed away all corrosion, bent the pins upwards a lil, applied some lithium grease to the mechanical mechanism that turns with the key and bam! Problem solved, atleast for now. Hopped in bed with my girl and passed out for the night. Saturday night i went to leave my girls house late at night. Got in, turned the key freely as it should amd cranked car. Put it in reverse and backed out of her driveway and went to start driving away down the road.

This is where it takes a turn for the worst...

As i start giving it some gas it starts to go, like it should. About 2-3 seconds of it pulling in i assume 1st gear, it slipped, and revved all ths way up imto the redline and BANG. We are now in the following gear. Same story, pulls just a lil, slips like hell and then..BANG.. reapeat. Imi never made it very far from her house so i pulled in a neighbors driveway and put it in reverse this was the worst one

BANG

at this point i knew something had gone horribly wrong, i swapped to manual, left it in 2nd gear and juat kinda rolled back barely using the gas.

Now i had it inspected when i bought it. The cv axles outer shaft seals were busted on both sides. I had already order replacement seals. I immediately suspected it was low on trans fluid and that there was no telling how long tmit had been leaking from those seals, but granted it had beem shifting great the whole time i was a lil confused that it just started acting up outta nowhere. I parked it for the night decide id deal with it next day. Went and hopped back in bed with ma lady. I had my cousin pick me up some trans fluid from autozone by his work after he got off. The recommended fluid they say to use is NOT SAFE to use is these aisin transmissions. I had that **** taken back and we proceeded to go on a manhunt for some aw-1 spec trans fluid. Went to o reillys instead and they cross referenced the gm recommended part number. Didnt have the official aw1 spec trans fluid, but the part number did cross with some "pentosin ATF1" as close as i was gonna get locally, and website of manufacturer said it was safe for use in a variety of european vehicles, saab included. grabbed 4 qts of that as i decided i was gonna do a drain and fill. Just to get me by until the outershaft seals came in. Obviously i started with ths fill plug, (wont do any good if i drain it but cant get fluid in it) and boy let me tell you that mfer was ON there. I almost gave up tbh cuz i was certain it was gonna have to be hit with a torque wrench. Well, i remembered some **** a few mechanics showed me with a ratchet and closed end wrench and with all my might was finally able to break the fill plug loose. Mustve took an hour atleast fighting with it. Dragged me a plastic pa. To catch the fluid to be drained and got ths drain bolt off. It was very dark brown almost black. You guys arent gonna believe this ****, but ONLY A HALF QUART OF TRANS FLUID DRAINED OUT!! A [email protected]$KING HALF QUART?!?! i with all my limited mechanical knowledge could not understand how in tf the car was even able to move in the first place. I am still baffled, i just cant comprehend it. I knew that was bad new, REALLY bad news. But i crossed my fingers and endured hoping like hell that somehow that gearbox was tough as hell as ive heard good things about them being able to take a beating, so i went the optimistic route and was hoping the saab was gonna be okay. I filled with the 4 qrts.

Let it run for a lil while to get all the fluids to temp and then while remaining stationary started moving thru the gears. It slammed into reverse and drive every time. I tried. Even seemed to get progressively worse/harder thunking. Got my cousin to hop in the car and while still in denial tried to take it down the road. Slip...bang....slip.....bang.... Repeat. The transmission is dead. Or might as well be itll still goin into gear but there in no way that it can be driven in that state. Something internally is 100% broken. In drive of reverse you also here some rattling of sorts. Almost like metal tinkering around in a can or something.

Ive owned this car for 1 week and spent most of my savings on it. I cant afford to fix it unfortunately, not without help. I just dont understand how it shitfted so good, and then bam, also where did all the fluid go? There was never a drop of anything under wherever i parked besides water from the ac. Its an awful situation i was supposed to be starting work too. Not possible now with no transportation. Im not necessarily asking for any handouts but if you guys in the saab community could help me get her back on the road im sure theres some way i can compensate. Maybe somebody is parting out there aero? Or can point me in the direction of a good rebuild kit? Im not asking for anyones money, but if there is anyone on here willing to monetarily donate to get me back on the road i will certainly take any donations and provide receipts of repairs and dates, so you know it wemt where it was supposed to go. And help would be greatky appreciated, im 25 years old and im trying to get back on me feet, its just been a rough year for us all. I dont know you all, but we are bound by our appreciation for saabs, and id like to go ahead and thank everyone in advance becuase i know somebody will try their best to help. Wish me luck and have a great day lads
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that must be one of the longest posts ive ever seen, u might wana just do a summery of the problem for others to be able to read.
but anyway, are u sure u removed the drain plug or just the inner small adjustment plug ? the drain plug is a two piece .
what ATF did u use ?
did u scan the car for codes ? And do u have any lights ON @ the dash ?
 

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No codes on dash, my mechanic did the draining so, i would assume hed have done it correctly ive been having my work done thru him for years.
 

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that must be one of the longest posts ive ever seen, u might wana just do a summery of the problem for others to be able to read.
but anyway, are u sure u removed the drain plug or just the inner small adjustment plug ? the drain plug is a two piece .
what ATF did u use ?
did u scan the car for codes ? And do u have any lights ON @ the dash ?
I used pentosin ATF1, its what crossed with the gm part number for recommended trans fluid, i know its long post but i state that at somepoint above. Its all together just kind of a sad situation.
 

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well, then all u can do is assume and i dont think i can help.
u will need to be sure 110% how was drained (cause it is a common mistake to only remove the inner plug and then yaa only half a liter will come out) and now u filled with 4, so it might be overfilled.
this transmission is so sensitive to level, even saab re-stated the checking method at one stage to modify the quantity by 100ml, ATF brand is another issue.
 

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Yeah, its been overfilled, and im quite irritated with him i knew there was 2 plugs underneath i shouldve drained it my self smh. Hes never done some crap like that, it was slipping Already so it was likely already low. Cant check level thanks to no dipstick. Car was only ran thru gears in a stationary position and took for a very short ride. 20 seconds and it was parked again. Alos
 

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Yeah, its been overfilled, and im quite irritated with him i knew there was 2 plugs underneath i shoukdve drained it my self smh. Hes never done some crap like that, it
 

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I just got off the phone with him, he said he removed the inner piece. He wont be touching this car anymore.
 

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And the fluid , was it ATF1 or ATF1LV ?
[/pretty certain it was just ATF1 the guy at the parts store typed in the gm part number for recommended spec fluid and this pentosin and ths oem stuff are only 2 that pulled up. The gm stuff or aisin was not available to order.
 

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Then u will need to drain the whole fluid, flush and fill with TOYOTA-WS (this Is my suggestion which is proven to work 100%)
To flush, u will need to disconnect cooler line from radiator and let it spell fluid out with car running.
tell me if u want complete instructions on that
 

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What was the fluid,and there is a dipstick accessible from underneath and it's green..
 
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