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Model Year: 2007
Build Month/Year: Dec/06
Mileage (in Miles): 165K
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? NO
If yes, have you validated w/ compression test (yes/no)? NO
If yes, did you have your car repaired (yes/no)? N/A
(Optional) If yes, what was your out of pocket cost? N/A

Does every one with this problem have idling problems when cold?
I read one guy did not, but it wasn't too convincing for some reason.
I don't recall any cold start/idle problems, even last winter. Probably started the car a few times at 10F. I try not to start cars in extreme cold if I don't have to.

I do have code P0303 and I guess I will change the spark plugs back to the old ones that were in the vehicle.

Should I do a compression test while I have the plugs out?
Shouldn't be to hard at that point, if I can rent one somewhere.
I think I should try it, it will save me some time if the engine is ****ed, in chasing down this P0303, power cut issue.

Oh, the actually issue I have is split second power cuts when I stomp to the gas all the way (have to stomp, or push quick).
I read one that one guy with no rough idle had the same power cuts. He had the valve issue, but I'm almost thinking it might have been something else with his car.
 

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Many auto parts stores like O'Riellys and Autozone will lend you a compression tester for a deposit. Not sure what stores are in your area.

You can also buy one for $20-50.


P303 can be coils or plugs. New plugs are cheap.
If you want to check a coil you can move them around and see if the misfire code moves to another cylinder. And,of course, you can buy just one coil at a time. Failure appears to be random, many replace them all just to be sure. But save good ones as future replacements
 

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Model Year: 2008
Build Month/Year: MAY/08
Mileage (in Miles): 89,000
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? Yes
If yes, have you validated w/ compression test (yes/no)? Yes
If yes, did you have your car repaired (yes/no)? Yes
(Optional) If yes, what was your out of pocket cost? $1000

Cold compression test: 180 / 170 / 170 / 50
Hot compression test: 175 / 175 / 175 / 170

Chose to fix myself. Bought the eeuro kit ~$800 with refurbished head, probably didn't need to replace them, but also replaced lifters ~$200
Was actually faster and cheaper to do it this way than get my head rebuilt by a local machine shop.

I took 3 full days to do it working on it, probably about 20 hours. Had WIS to help. I'd never taken a cylinder off before, but car wasn't worth enough to pay a shop to do it.

Great videos on youtube by Maic Salazar Diagnostics.
"2008 Saab 9 3 2 0T part 2 cylinder head removal"
"2008 Saab 9 3 2 0 T Part 3 Cylinder Head installation The Fix"

Everything went smoothly on the work, no issues. There's one nut on the cat that is a bit of a pain to get to. Wish I'd also replaced the water pump when I was in there. It started right up and ran great immediately. A lot of work, but happy I did it.
 

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Model Year: 2008
Build Month/Year: MAY/08
Mileage (in Miles): 89,000
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? Yes
If yes, have you validated w/ compression test (yes/no)? Yes
If yes, did you have your car repaired (yes/no)? Yes
(Optional) If yes, what was your out of pocket cost? $1000

Cold compression test: 180 / 170 / 170 / 50
Hot compression test: 175 / 175 / 175 / 170

Chose to fix myself. Bought the eeuro kit ~$800 with refurbished head, probably didn't need to replace them, but also replaced lifters ~$200
Was actually faster and cheaper to do it this way than get my head rebuilt by a local machine shop.

I took 3 full days to do it working on it, probably about 20 hours. Had WIS to help. I'd never taken a cylinder off before, but car wasn't worth enough to pay a shop to do it.

Great videos on youtube by Maic Salazar Diagnostics.
"2008 Saab 9 3 2 0T part 2 cylinder head removal"
"2008 Saab 9 3 2 0 T Part 3 Cylinder Head installation The Fix"

Everything went smoothly on the work, no issues. There's one nut on the cat that is a bit of a pain to get to. Wish I'd also replaced the water pump when I was in there. It started right up and ran great immediately. A lot of work, but happy I did it.
Well done!
 

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Rented a compression tester from autozone and did a compression check today.

2010 9.3 XWD 2.0T

64*F here today

No starting issues

1) 200
2) 205
3) 200
4) 205

98,500 miles
 

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Hello. I'm new to this site but not new to Saab. I have a 2008 9-3 2.0T purchased new in 2008. It currently has about 89k miles. Car has been exceptionally reliable and fantastic all around. I have the intake valve issue full blown this past winter. I have another car which I drive frequently so the Saab doesn't get driven much anymore. Anyway, I have all the hallmark signs of the intake valve failure. Saab specialist (owned by the former dealer) in Northern Virginia wants to charge me $2600 to fix this issue. I went back and reviewed my service records and notice that in 2012 with 41k miles I had requested a look at an issue with rough idle when cold but the mechanics couldn't verify the issue. This was done while the car was under GM warranty. God I hate GM and will curse them until my dying day. Anyway, I know this is a far stretch but do you believe I can have some type of retroactive warranty coverage for this issue given that I have documented proof I mentioned this issue early on? It was minor when I complained about it. Am I in fantasyland thinking GM would give a care in the world about my existence? This past winter the car sounded like a diesel tractor upon cold start but it is fine now in the summer. This car has been so reliable otherwise and I see many other owners have 150k miles or more so it would be worth fixing this issue I believe.
 

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http://www.orioautoparts.com/


Orion is the place that handles SAAB recalls.Just last year they helped me with seat belt and air bag recalls on three SAABs.

If you can do PMs I will give you the email address of a very helpful person there. Or, just call them. They certify SAAB service centers and sell parts and are licensed by GM to do recalls. I doubt that being out of warranty you will get very far but costs little to ask
 

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Thanks for the reply. My shop is an authorized Saab service center. I actually just emailed the owner asking him about this issue. I am waiting for his response, if he actually does respond. There's another authorized service center about 15 miles away, I may ask them for an estimate and more information. I am really disappointed in this issue overall.
 

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Thanks for the reply. My shop is an authorized Saab service center. I actually just emailed the owner asking him about this issue. I am waiting for his response, if he actually does respond. There's another authorized service center about 15 miles away, I may ask them for an estimate and more information. I am really disappointed in this issue overall.

What did your compression test show?
 

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Saab/GM will tell you good luck. No one above in this thread has gotten any sort of assistance, money/labor/parts or otherwise.
 

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Look at alanr832’s post a few up from here. Eeuroparts is selling a kit for about $1000. See what kind of a deal you can make for just labor ...


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What did your compression test show?
I don't think a compression test was done but it is clear what the problem is. All the signs are present for intake valve failure. I will get another estimate at a different authorized repair shop about 25 minutes away which promises lower cost repairs.
 

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Model Year: 2007
Build Month/Year: MARCH/07
Mileage (in Miles): 113,000 (183,000 km)
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? Unsure
If yes, have you validated w/ compression test (yes/no)? Yes
If yes, did you have your car repaired (yes/no)? n/a
(Optional) If yes, what was your out of pocket cost? n/a

Was convinced I was experiencing this issue for the past few months, was getting harder and harder to start (like 10-15 cranks) and now some misfiring even at full temp. Couldn't test compression because the torx screws holding the plug cover in place were stripped. Finally was able to get them off today, car had been sitting for a week but outside temp was about 85F when I did the compression test with these results:

185/185/190/190 (all approx)

Anyone think the outside temp might disqualify my results?

Plugs are fouled but less than 2 years old, have P0331 and P0400 codes which I cleared earlier and haven't reappeared (yet), started right up after the compression test but hard start about an hour after that.
 

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The colder the engine and ambient temperature the better sense you will have of whether you have the issue. Try again early morning after a cold snap
 

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The colder the engine and ambient temperature the better sense you will have of whether you have the issue. Try again early morning after a cold snap
Thanks, will try that if the fix planned for tonight doesn't work. Since I posted I brought the car in to a local SAAB specialist (Sylcar) who wasn't able to diagnose my problem, but ruled out iginition coil and fuel delivery issues - he thinks it might be the crank position sensor or ECU itself. Upon further research on this forum I will replace the EVAP Purge Valve tonight, as the issue initially showed up with hard starting after fuel refill. Sorry for polluting the Intake Valve thread...

Edit: replaced evap purge valve, no change.
 

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Model Year: 2007 SC
Build Month/Year: 4/07
Mileage (in Miles):31560
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? NOT yet
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Model Year: 2007 SC
Build Month/Year: 4/07
Mileage (in Miles):31560
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How on earth do you only have 31k miles on a 2007 car? lol. Even if you do get the valve issue in the future, it will be 20 years from now. :D
 

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I bought it a year ago with only 27,500 miles from a school teacher in the town I live in. It's an anniversary edition and I had been looking for one for 3 years and had mostly given up. Then this came up on Craigslist.
 

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Model Year: 2007 9-3
Build Month/Year: 04/08
Mileage (in Miles): 155000
Have you experienced this issue? Yes
If yes, have you validated w/ compression test? Yes one cylinder is 60 rest are 165
If yes, did you have your car repaired (yes/no)? Not yet..not sure if its worth it
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Model Year: 2011 9-3 Turbo4
Build Month/Year: 02/11
Mileage (in Miles): 96K
Have you experienced this issue (Yes/no)? NO
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Compression test was 190 psi cold on all cylinders @96k. OO on the car was Enterprise leasing. I suspect they replaced the intake valves before selling the car after lease. I'm the 4th owner, but the 2nd never drove the car, and the 3rd immediately sold it to me after purchase because of other issues. :D
 
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