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I have been contemplating this project since I got rid of my '00 base and got my '01SE.

I have the SE amp that I installed in the '00 and have fabricated a DIN wire to connect the stock SE amp (front) and the second SE amp (rear) -- I changed the DIN pins for the front and rear speaker wires so that the front amp stays for the front, and the rear amp is on the rear channel from the stock head.

The step I am at is physically placing the amp and wires in the car. I was thinking about attaching the second amp in the trunk under/next to the OnStar unit (hidden but accessible). And I have old Kicker SS6's from my old, dead, (college) Toyota wagon which should fit in the trunk nicely.

My question is around wire color identification on the SE amp, itself. I have found in other threads and on ERP and Richard Brevan's site all other wire configs (the DIN, etc), but:

I know the black and yellow are power and constant (i was thinking about just tapping them directly since the amps themselves are fused and shouldn't overload the wires or stock fusing (or am I assuming wrong))
-- but my real question is around the speaker wires. Richard mentions brown and another color... however, the amp I have has white/white-black and grey/grey-black.

Anyone know? or should I make it a trial and error?

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I am not sure I understand the question. So for power, I should think you would be OK to hook them both in together. If you crank up the volume and the music really distorts, or you blow a fuse, you can know the stock wiring is not sufficient.

As far as the speaker output colors, it doesent really matter. Speakers have no + and negative, it is only important that you wire them the same. That means, that they are wired "in-phase". Wired out of phase, they can cancel each other out, and sound is poor. Wired out of phase they won't be damaged, or damage the amp, since really they are just a resistor, and don't have direction to them. I would just wire the striped wires to the same pole on a speaker.

Now I do have one concern, and that is the stock amp is used only as a subwoofer amp. It has a crossover built in that will filter out high frequency's and only allow low to pass. I learned this while I unplugged my headunit from the dash speakers, and the rear 6x9's. The amp and door speakers only produce bass. There is a slight chance that there is a passive crossover inline between the amp and speaker, but I think that is unlikely. I do know the signal fed from the headunit is full range though, and have verified it by hooking up my amps to it via the directions on ERP's site. Are you planning on using this amp as a sub amp? I should think it would do pretty well, no thunderous bass or anything, but it should have some decent kick!

Please elaborate on your plans! I have plans to rework mine also (tinkered with it tonight actually). I am planning on relocating the 6,5 inch door speakers to where the 6x9's are, and then putting my alpine components up front and powering them from a 40 watt kenwood amp. I will also be throwing in an old 6.5 inch bazooka tube, so the two stock 6.5's, and the bazooka should put out some pretty decent bass, and have a very small footprint. I hope. I need to get cracking on this though.

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In the SE amp, there are 4 variable resistors. 2 I know are gain (L + R channel) the other 2 I am assuming are crossover freq.

My goal was to bring additional volume in to the car. The Kicker boxes I have are full range boxes 6 inch woofer with large horn tweeter. I am curious to see what sound actually comes out of them. If it's just bass, fine with me. If it's full range, halleluyah. I was at the point where, I own it, and figured might as well use it - the extra amp that is.

My question is:

What color wire coming from the amp corresponds to left or right?

I'll photolog the installation, if you want.

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Melovesha said:
My question is:

What color wire coming from the amp corresponds to left or right?
Ok, that I don't know. Just expiriment with the balance I guess. I am interested to know if you can make that amp full range. Keep me posted.

I am pretty happy with the sound myself (not bad enough to make me want to change it) but I have the components, amp and bazooka tube so I figured I'd put them in!

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Tboy said:
I am pretty happy with the sound myself (not bad enough to make me want to change it) but I have the components, amp and bazooka tube so I figured I'd put them in!
Exactly my point. I'll keep you posted.
 

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UPDATE: got the system into the car. tested it. SE amp is only mid-bass. Kicker boxes are old and blown. The gain variable resistors work well, the other 2 resistors are cross over... still in the low-mid bass range. Kicks out a lot of bass.

white wires are left, grey are right.

Have to get new speaker boxes, and mount the amp appropriately.

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Melovesha said:
UPDATE: got the system into the car. tested it. SE amp is only mid-bass. Kicker boxes are old and blown. The gain variable resistors work well, the other 2 resistors are cross over... still in the low-mid bass range. Kicks out a lot of bass.

white wires are left, grey are right.

Have to get new speaker boxes, and mount the amp appropriately.

:L
Ahh ha, so it is a cross-over, but only to tune the low and mid bass region. Good to know, I may fiddle a little bit with that. Thanks for the info on the left right colors.

Tboy
 
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