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Hello......has anyone done a back to back comparison between the 9-3SS and the Audi A4. The car magazines seem to really like the A4. The A4 seems to come with much more standard equipment, and the new 2005.5 A4 has a 6 speed manual as standard on all versions plus direct injection. (No turbo lag whatsoever) Also, Audi has more options. (Two different wood trims, and one metal for example)

Just wondering.

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I did test drive the A4 last month, it is nice. The engine was lacking. I had to ask the the salesguy if it was a turbo, had no balls at all and no turbo noise. I am sure the 6 cyl is better but I did not drive it. Audi reliability is not very good. I am happy with my Saab. I did look at a 3 series, but was not happy with the side airbags-not good enough protection.
 

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while i was working at the VW service department, i got to drive quite a few A4's around the parking lot. the biggest complaint i had was how slow the throttle response was when first getting on the gas. i think they are engineered to reduce torque when the engine is cold, so the engine revs up, but the car slowly takes off. throttle response is better when the engine is warmed up. people who are used to the VW/audi shifter feel love them...i don't particularly care for them. i think the shifter feels loose, so much so that it feels disconnected. where the VW/audi shifter slips into gear too easily, i feel the shifter in my SS is a little too stiff/notchy. since this is the first straight drive i've owned, it's all i really know. i test drove a 3-series a while back, and instantly i didn't like my shifter feel as much. the feel of the bimmer's shifter is so precise and direct...but i guess that's why they're the benchmark for most manufacturers.

also, i have seen the consumer reports ratings for the audi lineup. i've always thought of audi as generally an unreliable brand, and consumer reports agrees with a solid black circle for reliability for practically all audi models. but ironically, the audi service department didn't do much business in comparison to VW. now i know there aren't nearly as many audi's on the road as VW's, but service writers at my dealership generally thought of them as somewhat reliable due to the lack of problems people came in for at my location.
 

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I had a 2004 A4 1.8T (163 hp) with manual transmission as a rental car on a business trip last week. It had sports seats and maybe sports supension, but I am not sure. I drove about 500 kilometers, and have the following opinion:

Engine: smoother power delivery than the 9-3, but boring sound. Also less powerful than my 1.8t with BSR stage 1.

Suspension: Nice and firm, but definitely less comfortable than my Saab.

Steering: Slightly less responsive than the 9-3.

Seats: Nice side support, but uncomfortable as it pressed into my thighs.

Interior: Seems solid, but nonetheless not as good looking as the 9-3. Also, definitely less ergonomic than Saab's.

Overall, I was happy to return home and drive my 9-3!
 

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Cojoroh said:
also, i have seen the consumer reports ratings for the audi lineup. i've always thought of audi as generally an unreliable brand, and consumer reports agrees with a solid black circle for reliability for practically all audi models. but ironically, the audi service department didn't do much business in comparison to VW. now i know there aren't nearly as many audi's on the road as VW's, but service writers at my dealership generally thought of them as somewhat reliable due to the lack of problems people came in for at my location.
Have you seen Consumer reports ratings on the SAAB 9-3???It's almost as bad!!!
 

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03-05 reliability for audi should be pretty good. they actually moved up from below average last year.

somehow in their 50 plus years of existence VW and Audi never had a Quality Control Department. Len Hunt put in place a system for Audi which is working well and is now working on VW.

the new 2.0T should be a lot better than the old 1.8T
 
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