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For the life of me, I cannot find a decent diagram of the wiring around the headlamps. My right front low beam is out, but the garage says the bulb is fine, and notes the wires connecting the lamp assembly to the rest are previously fried and someone tried to salvage them. I found OEM Part F90006 pigtail to get from light to the rest, but at the garage a second time, they said I need the wiring harness after that. So what does F90006 connect to "on the rest of the car" side of things, not the headlamp itself? (2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Wagon)
 

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What low beam headlamps do you have halogen or hid(xenon)
I was afraid of this question. I don't know or know how to know. Just got the car used (my 4th Saab), and it lacks a user manual, another item in my to-do list. (First items solved were taillight LED strip and a piece of plastic on roof rail). The right side (passenger) low beam was working (twice), especially after being looked at (twice, i.e. déjà vu) by the garage mechanic, who said one tiny loose wire was dangling and he inserted it. After a few days driving, and a speed bump, it's out again. My layman head couldn't find anything by sight.
 

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If you have a sticker warning about voltage and mercury (Hg), then you have HID. Also if the headlamps take a bit of time to start up and change colour. If they just turn on, they're halogen.

From here, just reading what you've written, it doesn't sound like the shop is particularly interested in fixing your car. Are they suggesting that there's no power to the headlamp from the wiring harness that plugs into the lamp?

The older halogen headlights used to have problems in the wiring within the lamps to the H7 bulbs. I don't know about the 2008 headlamps, though.
 

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Thx. I haven't seen a sticker, nor do they fade into a lifelike state. They're probably halogen, but I will look for a sticker regardless. The garage isn't the usual place I've taken my Saabs, but they put in the taillight LED strip for cheap, so I thought they could check the front. The light worked when I got in the car in Feb 2020, then it cut out 4-6 weeks later; I dropped into Pep Boys (the garage) to "get a bulb" and the guy who took it out, said it's fine, but "the pigtail is charred, soldered, make-shift", and put it back, and the light was back on. Stayed on another month. Another branch of Pep Boys garage confirmed the pigtail needed changing, so I hunted down OEM F90006 (which someone had flagged on this or another Saab forum). When Pep Boys looked at the part (and had the car up in the air), they said the adjacent harness was also in bad shape and needing replacement. They gave me my car and the unused pigtail back, and the light was back on for another couple of weeks. Now it's off again. I can't find a diagram to order that adjacent part. If the adjacent part is huge and expensive, I might take the car back to another NAPA garage I had used on my previous Saab.
 

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Honestly, you are much better off taking a look at this for yourself. If you have a friend who works on his/her cars, invite them over for a beer. Have them bring a multimeter. We here can also help answer questions (though not necessarily quickly or accurately, since we're not there).

I'm not in the USA, but Pep Boys are the last people you want working on a 2008 Saab. They won't be any more competent than you.

Also, they won't be able to fix any serious problems with your car.

You should check for a competent Saab specialist in the area. Or look in the Tech II section for a Tech II owner close to you, who might be willing to help. Otherwise, you may be in for a slow-motion mess.
 

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Very good advice. It was sort of an accident that I happened into Pep Boys (i.e. fetch a bulb), and I will change gears now and return to the garage beforehand. (I moved from GA to VA to overseas and back, hence the switch in Saabs, a switch I would not have made if I knew of the full circle). If I can solder this elusive adjacent harness part, rather than replace it, unless it's as cheap as the little pigtail was, then good enough. Its intermittent behavior currently tells me that the dangling little wire just needs a more determined hand (and tool) to put it back into place. Pep Boys clearly the wrong venue.
 

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just take the cover(nearest the fender) off the back of the h/lamp,take a pic and post..if square silver box (HIDS)/black connector with wires(Halogen)..

New thread created as the op doesn't know what type of headlamp system is fitted,and they bumped a thread in relation to xenons..
 

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So, when I see the word "just" associated with car mechanics, I get nervous, since while I'm interested, I'm usually not talented (or perhaps it's a kind of patience lacking). -to be fair, I'm an orchestra musician, so one can't be everything- But the good news is the black cap screwed right off and my phone was narrow enough to photograph. Looks like halogen, since it's black. AND, to raise more doubts about Pep Boys, I jiggled the lower wire, which seems connected, and the light came back on. I guess on the next speed bump it will go out again. They've said the pigtail and neighboring harness are war torn and bandaged. I can't see into the crevice, but step one might be to have a proper garage solder and be done with it. Step 2 in preparation might point again to acquiring the wires that connect to the part I already have, that pigtail thing that wasn't expensive, nor could I recognize my new part connected to the headlamp. Perhaps I have the wrong pigtail F90006 or the one in there currently is indeed so melted and make-shift as to no longer be recognized as F90006.
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i've never seen any issues with MY07 onwards low beam..me i just get another from a breakers and splice it onto the wiring,cutting back to where the wiring(copper) is shiny and not discoloured from the heat caused by a bad connection....
there is an issue there ok,you can see that the grey connector has melted..
 

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Yes, H11 is a halogen bulb (they are called things like H4, H7, H11, they are of various types).

I subscribe to the Toronto Symphony and they cancelled like 15 concerts I have tickets to. Some of them I was especially looking forward to. :mad:

I would not suggest learning electrical repair on a headlight, as it's a high heat, high current, and safety requirement. But maybe someone in your orchestra circle is handy with electrical repairs. Fixing up a bad wire shouldn't be that difficult. Although ideally you start with a good socked and pigtail leads on it.
 

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In my sight "mechanic" have done extra lousy job.
1st: there should be ONLY H7 (in low beams) and H9 (in high beams).
2nd: now you have opened HIGH beam bulb cap and I see wrong halogen lamp (H11) installed in H9 place. H8/9/11 have same bayonet fitting and almost same connector (tab is only difference).
3rd: You have broken connector (locking pin broken) and cracked insulation in wires.
4th: Somebody have also ruined reflector edge.

I personally want all my money back and compensation what they have ruined.
 

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I'm going to print this thread and take it to the other garage that used to work on my 2002 9-3 SE (last year of the glorious hatchback). If he balks, then I'll start asking around my circles for who feels confident or lucky with electricity and frayed wires. I'd love to avoid buying another part, especially some large harness that takes an expert a long time to install. So this other mechanic ought to be able to confirm what's supposed to be in there, change a bulb out, solder, wrap in electrical tape and be done with it. (Or I can pull over every x number of miles and stick my finger in there to get the low beam to come back on for another stint.)
 

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The cap I removed was seemingly large, but I can look again for another one. The thing is, I'm swayed to believe I photographed the low beam as it is working again due to my fingers wiggling the wires there. The part on ebay looks quite similar in connector to part I've bought already. I'll write in again after doublechecking.
 

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My original mechanic was engaged to deal with this. His place is also a NAPA garage. He leveraged the pigtail I had already acquired, the OEM F90006, and corrected the bulb (see photo) and butt spliced the other exposed wires, as I specified that I didn't want to open a can of worms and replace whatever adjacent wiring harness that was. They verified that nothing was shorting out any further, and I was charged a small amount for this fix. Thanks to all here for steering me towards the solution.
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