I needed new rear rotors and pads so I decided to go ahead and change everything including fronts. It took me a month to decide on the stock rotors/pads or bite the bullet and try the R1 Concepts drilled and diamond slotted/ebc red stuff. I've read that they usually won't make a difference but I thought I would try.The drilled and slotted really made a difference with break fade. The Red Stuff pads really bite after a few stops. Intial breaking they felt like my old rotors and pads. I have a little over 400 miles on them with half a day of autox. I'll let you know how they hold up in the long run. So far so good. Oh and I don't work for either company. I thought I would post in case anyone else wanted to try them.