[coolsaab]

please help.

The check engine light come on my yr 2000 95 2.3t, I retrieved the OBD II code which is P1213, and it shows "Start Injector Circuit Mulfuntion".

The light is been on/off for the last 2 week now and wonder what it's mean, and what part is need to be repaired or services.

Any input will be appreciated.

 

[Chris 9-5]

I cant find that code listed, sorry

 

[Kermit]

Thats the problem with generic code readers i'm afraid. You will need to get it put on a Tech II for a proper diagnostic.

 

[coolsaab]

Thanks Chris and Kermit,

Ok, will let dealer to check it. by the way, base one OBD II, the code P1213 also indicate

* Injector Circuit Cyls. 1–6 Short To B+
* Cyl.1-Fuel Inj.Circ. Short to B+

 

[Kermit]

Let us know how you get on, Tech II will probably phrase the fault totally differently to a generic code reader.

 

[coolsaab]

The Saab dealer stated the P1312 fault code is “due to Combustion Detection cyl 1,2” and they suggest to replace the DI cassette and the spark plug for $1000.



This is a yr 2000 95 2.3L with 46K miles on it, and the DI had been replaced at 25K, and wonder if DI need to be replaced every 20K miles?



Anyhow, this is what my options are:



1. Bite the bullet, Let the dealer to replace it for $1000.

2. Let independent mechanic to do it, does anyone know a good Saab mechanic in Dallas Texas area?

3. Buy the DI and Spark plug online and fix it myself.





I found a DIY link about replacing the DI cassette at http://www.mitt-eget.com/saab/faq_electrical.shtml#di and spark plug at http://www.thesaabsite.com/Sparkplugremoval.htm



What do your guys suggest? My entire car repairs go to the shop so far, wonder if this is DIY thing and what kind of things that I need to be aware?



Thanks for the information….

 

[Kermit]

Definately a DIY job, takes 15 mins tops. What is it with American dealers wanting to charge a grand for a DI? Do they wear masks and carry guns, cos they are a bunch of robbers in my book! :evil: Our site sponsors can get you a DI and plugs pretty quickly...somebody in the US mentioned a DI was about $320 recently, plugs are probably about $15. www.partsforsaabs.com Instructions as follows...
1. remove the four torx screws holding the DI to the engine
2. undo the electrical connection on the right hand end of the DI
3. remove DI
4. remove spark plugs using a plug socket/spanner
5. put new plugs in gapped at 1.1mm
6. connect the plug to the new DI
7. replace 4 torx screws
8. leave DI for 10-15 mins to allow the fluid in the wells to run to the bottom BEFORE CRANKING THE ENGINE.

Work time 15 mins..beer time 15 mins, then start her up. Total labour cost zip. :cheesy:​

 

[Guest]

Coolsaab, Kermit is correct. This is so a DIY Job, even for a complete diy novice this is a really easy fix. Save those $$$ way less than half price if you do it yourself. Have a go, we are all here to talk you through it if you have any worries..


Finn

 

[Chris 9-5]

Does anyone fancy doing a photo tutorial on DI and plug changing? It would be quite helpful as a sticky

 

[Guest]

Does anyone fancy doing a photo tutorial on DI and plug changing? It would be quite helpful as a sticky

I will be changing plugs when I get back from France in a couple of weeks, so I could do one then..

 

[hildebird]

Coolsaab, if you don't have a set of Torx bits, the size you need is one end of the screwdriver which is part of the Saab standard toolkit with the jack/sparewheel etc.

I did mine last weekend, and if you were in a hurry I reckon you could do it in 5 minutes. No crawling under the car, you don't even need to get your hands dirty. I wish I could get paid $1000 dollars for that

 

[Chris 9-5]

I will be changing plugs when I get back from France in a couple of weeks, so I could do one then..

Thanks Finn, that would be great

 

[coolsaab]

Thanks Everyone,

I will go ahead and order it online then.

 

[coolsaab]

what is the electorde gap for the 95?

will 1.1 mm is the same as 0.04 inch in US?

also, I bought a gauge which only have 0.038 or 0.051, so should I use the 0.038?

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Kermit]

0.38 sounds about right, i've got a new set of NGK's and they are all pre-gapped spot on to 1.1mm.

 

[coolsaab]

I replaced both the DI and Spark plugs this morning, afterward test drive the car and it seem run allright, hopefully the CEL will not reappear again.

by the way, I ordered the DI from eEuroparts.com for $309.90 and get it shipped in 3 days.

Thanks for all your help.