As is the so-called 9-2912 fanatic said:can anyone say GM. Some one should make this a hyperlink to a GM site not have this form on a Saab site. This is a joke to the Saab name. Thats what I think is anyone with me.
There is, and a shame it is, NO SAAB anymore to buy and sell, much as there is no Chevrolet,Pontiac,Buick,etc,etc - these are but names or brands -to serve the "almighty" GM..PHAT_joe said:yep i agree: i saw the commercial last night; they say that all other SUVs are invisible or something like that, and the SAAB 9-7x makes you stand out... it looks like a BMW X5 with a SAAB grill, i think that SAAB sold out with this one!
A very well trodden path indeed, I wish these guys with there rehashed Triumphs could see there's nothing new for saab in how the 9-7 came about.Lodro said:Well, this is an original thread...<ducking/>
Rehashed Triumph - my foot !ragtopcav said:A very well trodden path indeed, I wish these guys with there rehashed Triumphs could see there's nothing new for Saab in how the 9-7 came about.
Sadly the one thing that is absent from such threads is constructive criticism.
Well, I'll beg to differ a little bit. I have pointed out (in one of the previous 3,000 threads on the subject) that I had specific concerns about no IRS, bad crash scrores, no turbo/bad mpg (I know, I know, its an SUV, and its got to be bterr than a Tourage, right?), and now add to the list no ESP, a real liability I think. All in all though I have to say it hasn't turned out as bad as I'd thought. Its even dare I say it a bit of a looker.ragtopcav said:Sadly the one thing that is absent from such threads is constructive critism.
Brewman013 said:HAS ANY OF DRIVEN THE 9.7X? THE VEHICLE ISN'T TO REPLACE YOUR 9.3'S OR 9.5'S. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE FOR YOUR SAAB DEALER TO SELL. THE MORE VEHICLES YOUR DEALER SELLS, THE MORE MONEY SAAB/GM WILL HAVE TO PRODUCE THE SO CALLED SAABS THAT YOU REALLY WANT. BUT NO MATTER WHAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT. UNLESS SAAB MAKE A RETRO 900 HATCHBACK YOU WON'T BE HAPPY.........GIVE IT A BREAK, SAAB IS GOING TO SELL THE 9.7X THEN LATER WE'LL HAVE THE 9.6X SUBARU BASED SUV AND YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THAT TO *ITCH ABOUT THAT TOO. HOW ABOUT THE 9.3 SPORTCOMBI, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? IS IT NOT ENOUGH SAAB FOR YOU TOO? BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT........thank you now I feel better!!
The chassis architecture [to use the phrase the current breed of designers prefer] is almost identical to a Triumph, yes, fact, it was already old hat when Saab took it on board; the old 900 was the ultimate expression of the Dolemite, in the same vain the new 900 is the ultimate expression of the Euro Cavalier J Body [Opel Vectra A].earthworm said:Rehashed Triumph - my foot !
Yes, of course, the Saab 99 used a Triumph engine, but this error, I believe, was rectified a few years later.
Who are you to say we will never be Saab guys? I loved my C900, but I think my 9-3 is every bit a true Saab as the C900. It may have some GM parts underneath, but there has never been a Saab that was 100 percent Saab. The 95 and 96 models used a Ford V4 for much of their lives, and their original engines were not pure Saab designs. Like it has been said before, the 9000 was not a pure Saab, it shared its roof and doors and basic platform with Lancia and Alfa Romeos. I am a Saab guy because I am rooting for Saab's survival as a designer of cars that dare to defy the normal, and are not everybody's BMW. Through the 9-2 and 9-7, Saab has the customers and financial support to carry that on into the future. That's what a Saab guy should be, and I strongly suggest you join the likes of us.912 fanatic said:after reading the replies I have come to a understanding. thier are to type of people ones that are saab people and ones that are GM people. I feel to be a saab person you have to at one time owned a 9000. C900, 99,96 or any other pervious saabs. these are the people who know where I am coming from. If these people went to still drive a newer saab it is allright with me because they know where the roots of saab came from. but these knew saab guys will never be saab guys.