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Hello, thanks for taking time on this post.
So a few days ago after getting stuck in traffic I pulled into a store and when I came back out the car would not start. Actually, the engine cranked and turned over but immediately died. I tried a couple more starts and the response became less and less, eventually no turn over, only crank. A few months ago I changed my CPS after some probs, and this situation right here seemed different. As well I went back to the car later that night and the next morning and it would not start.

So I tow it to a shop and eventually they tell me it’s the “ignition module“, the DIC and I go ahead and have them change it because my employers are worried about me. I pay a lot and drive it for two days and now I’m back in the exact same boat, my car won’t start at a store where I stopped. No stuck in traffic this time. I did try to listen for the fuel pump as I was cranking but there was a lot of noise and I was pretty frustrated. Honestly tho, I didn’t hear it.
So for those w loads more experience and knowledge than me does fuel pump sound like the right direction? Other thoughts? And finally is there a good reason the shop would have misdiagnosed the DIC as the prob? From the looking I’ve done it’s not a conclusion I would have drawn. Im afraid now they may have switched out a perfectly working part for an overpriced newer one. :-/ and how do I handle that.
 

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A cheap DIC will leave you stranded. This happened to me many years ago. A local shop put in a chinese unit and the next day I was stranded. I took it to the dealer and they installed an OEM unit. That was more than 100k miles ago.
 

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A cynical view is that the shop, not having Saab-specific diagnostic kit (Tech 2), just took a guess at the DIC. Often that solves the issue but without Tech 2 it’s either guesswork, or experience, which a non-Saab specialist won’t have.

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Right? Feeling the cynicism. Update, when back to try to start car, decidedly no sound from what should be fuel pump.
 

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Fuel pump/pressure is easy to check:
Ignition to ON (run).
There is schrader valve in fuel line. Push center part and fuel will come out with pressure, so use cloth etc to prevent fuel spraying to your eyes/face.
 

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Fuel pump/pressure is easy to check:
Ignition to ON (run).
There is schrader valve in fuel line. Push center part and fuel will come out with pressure, so use cloth etc to prevent fuel spraying to your eyes/face.
err if I break the schrader valve..I worked a little HVAC and we were able to replace the pins, I'm sure its the same, anyone have experience here?
Definitely no fuel or pressure.
 

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No pressure-> fuel pump shot. Replace it.
 

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So I tow it to a shop and eventually they tell me it’s the “ignition module“, the DIC and I go ahead and have them change it because my employers are worried about me. I pay a lot and drive it for two days and now I’m back in the exact same boat, my car won’t start at a store where I stopped. No stuck in traffic this time. I did try to listen for the fuel pump as I was cranking but there was a lot of noise and I was pretty frustrated. Honestly tho, I didn’t hear it.
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Good news, the shop admitted their mistake and made a new repair switching the fuel pump. Only charged me the difference between the two jobs. I know this forum and what I learned helped make things turn out right so thanks to everyone who contributes here, it's so helpful.
 
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