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this is all frustrating readingcoming from a hackors perspective,

my thinking is why doesnt somone just build an emulator engine for tech devices then load the software for each individual during usage?
Tech2Win is the emulator and the BIN files are the software that you load.
 

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I just placed an order for this and will report back how it works.

http://www.careucar.com/wholesale/latest-high-quality-gm-mdi.html

Michael
Did you ever get this in the mail? Any luck?

Also to everyone else on the thread, I am so, so, so, so sorry I haven't posted the picture I took yet. My one year old is trying to walk and lots going on around the house. Every time I try to pull out the laptop to post some pictures my son sees it and HAS to play with the laptop. Needless to say, I can't get anything posted :)

Question about posting pictures, is there a "best practice" for that? Or just attach them to the post? Isn't there a limit on picture attachments?
 

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Fak, if this works, would have gone this route. So much more convenient.
jjthegreat it does work perfectly with the 2003 and up 9-3. I've tested it on my 2007 and 2008 9-3's and been able to do 100% of everything (and reliably too). I've also done SPS via GlobalTIS on my 2007 on my ECU, no problems. Only thing I haven't done is posted pictures yet showing a few screen shots and lights blinking, etc. but it works and works great. I wish I had never bought a knockoff because mine died after a few uses and was unrecoverable. This tool should last until I've long since moved on to another car.
 

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Hmmm have a paypal account? Perhaps we can all donate for your time to make a write-up or a "how to"? This appears to be a cheaper, more reliable and slightly more legit alternative to TECH2 clones.
 

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Certainly an interesting (albeit more expensive option) than the clone Tech 2 route..................however I see these MDI interfaces are also available on Aliexpress similar to the Tech 2's wide range of prices.
Does anyone know where they are manufactured?

Perhaps the USA vendors are sourcing them and then adding the extra quality control and local support (if indeed they do come from the same factories as the Tech 2 units.) This for sure happens with the Tech2 units.
The advertising is pretty much the same across the sites.

From my own perspective the MDI route is still far too expensive in the UK and with two older cars in the family and one 2007 I will have to keep with the Tech 2 for the time being......
 

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Here are my photos! Sorry this took forever.

Step 1, open Tech2Win, use the default image.

Step 2, open GlobalTIS for Opel v32 and select security access. Get security access. Tech2Win license will refresh and it will unlock Tech2Win so it will communicate with the car. Close Tech2Win.

Step 3, plug in the Mongoose Pro II GM and plug the other end into the car.

Step 4, open Tech2Win. Select the Saab BIN that you set up (do this on your own)

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/tech2configurator_zpsd623caa1.png

Step 5, Tech2Win prompts you to use the Mongoose, so, use the Mongoose.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/selectmongoosePro_zps9553de3b.png

Step 6, you will see the Saab 9.250 NAO splash screen. Notice the license expiration says <1 instead of 0, and you will not see any "circle with a line through it" through the Tech2 picture, the MDI picture, etc, because Tech2Win is unlocked.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/saabtech2winsplash_zpsaf456c44.png

Step 7, get some security access

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/securityaccess_zps72fef835.png

Step 8, wait for Tech2Win to do its thing, and give you the prompt:

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/securityaccess_zps72fef835.png

Step 9, use TIS2000 to get security access. Turn "off" Tech2Win using the power button in the GUI, which basically resets the software. Fire up TIS2000 and select Get Security Access. Note, you may have to adjust the baud on the serial connection, I had to drop mine a bit before things played nicely. Also, unplug the Mongoose while you are doing all this nonsense.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/securityaccess2_zps33b908bb.png

Step 10, BOOM you got yourself some security access. If you got this far, celebrate!

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/securityaccessenable_zpse980e4f5.png

Step 11, plug the Mongoose back in, hit the power button and restart Tech2Win. You are good to go, you have full security access. Feel free to do whatever you want! Here is me jacking around with some of the diagnostics. I used this same software to re-program the BCM on my 2008 9-3 CV. It works.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/securityaccessenable_zpse980e4f5.png

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/tech2t8enginecontrol_zpsa5a29212.png

Step 12, SPS! Close out all this crap and open GlobalTIS for Saab. Open SPS. Plug in Mongoose. Basically, it just works. It will show up in the list as an available adapter. Follow the directions. Here are some pictures of me updating the ECU for my 2007 9-3 2.0T to eliminate the idle dip problem I occasionally experienced.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/SPSforSaabmoduleselection_zps0facb628.png

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/SPSforSaab_zpsa4b9aaf3.png

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/SPSforSaab2_zps072fc351.png


Most of what I wrote omits some tips and tricks but was designed to show, yes, this tool works, its compatible 100% with 2003+ 9-3SS for sure, and I love it. I don't know how I put up with the Chinese junk. No more time bombs. Plus this setup works for my 2007 Yukon XL Denali. If I buy a car with the Global A electrical platform, the Mongoose is certified to work with GDSII also! So it's pretty much future proofed.

Here are some more random photos of my setup and of the Mongoose plugged in and...Mongoosing?

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/IMG_0118_zpsf08b968e.jpg

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/IMG_0119_zps7d922887.jpg

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b558/txsaabstory/IMG_0120_zpsde3675a6.jpg

My recommendation? If you are the least bit handy with computers, buy this thing and never look back.

Cheers!
 

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wow I am so glad I accidentally found the link to this. I was literally just about to pull the trigger in the coming weeks on a Chinese tech2, but man after after seeing this I am holding off. This looks so....as others have stated more reliable, legit, and easy...well i hope its as easy as you make it in your post.

Please keep us posted on this and the availability of the software. Because this whole thing relies on the problem of getting the software in question, then getting it activated...
 

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wow I am so glad I accidentally found the link to this. I was literally just about to pull the trigger in the coming weeks on a Chinese tech2, but man after after seeing this I am holding off. This looks so....as others have stated more reliable, legit, and easy...well i hope its as easy as you make it in your post.

Please keep us posted on this and the availability of the software. Because this whole thing relies on the problem of getting the software in question, then getting it activated...
The Chinese stuff sucks. Screw buying one and dealing with that bs. Might as well light your money on fire.

Anybody have a suggestion on where to post all the software for download? Seems like dead links abound with this stuff and I don't feel like having to periodically post updated links and crap.

Also, does anybody have an activator for Opel GlobalTIS V32? I had to get mine activated on a forum.
 

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The Chinese stuff sucks. Screw buying one and dealing with that bs. Might as well light your money on fire.
Seriously. A few people were saying this is more expensive than the clones. Yes but not by much and its just a OBDII to USB connector. Those clones from what i've read on threads don't have great longevity. This on the other hand the reliability is based completely on the computer in use since the hardware tech2 is replaced by a virtual tech2. If something happens make a clone of the hard drive. Copy it over to a new one and away it goes again.
 

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TXSaabStory,
I'm investigating the best options to diagnose and modify my Saab. The Tech2 clone solution seems to be too risky for my taste, but your setup looks real promising :)

I have a few questions before I go ahead and order the device.

Is it only possible to enable Tech2win for 1 day? As far as I understand Opel Global TIS is only used for this right?

Is there any shortcuts for older cars? For example Saab 9-5 from 2001?
Is there any other tools you can use instead of the Mongoose Pro GM II?
What is the requirements on the device? Any specific protocols etc?

Thanks for the effort you've done so far regarding this.
I will follow this thread from now on.
 

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Yes but not by much and its just a OBDII to USB connector.
Not accurate. The Mongoose is much more than just a generic CAN to OBDII adapter. The Mongoose GM can speak ISO22900 which is GM's language to talk to the cars. Generic adapters won't do that. It also works on a couple of different bus protocols:

CAN/ISO 15765/GMLAN
GM Class2 (J1850VPW)
Single-Wire CAN (GM)

Here is a detailed list of the vehicle subsystems it will not work with, or vehicles it will flat out not work with:

http://www.drewtech.com/reference/T2WCoverage.pdf

When using Tech2Win, if you go into the setup for the BIN's, you will see an option to use either ISO22900 or J2534-2 to talk to the cars. J2534-2 is the newer, manufacturer specific standard that GM is supporting, if you happen to have a tool that can speak J2534-2 for GM, then you won't have to buy a Mongoose :)
 

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Is it only possible to enable Tech2win for 1 day? As far as I understand Opel Global TIS is only used for this right?
As far as I can tell, yes the only way to activate it is to use Opel GlobalTIS V32 (very specifically V32, V36 won't work from what I hear) and perform a security access operation or do a software download. I just use boot Tech2Win using the generic BIN and select the security access. It automatically refreshes the license for a day. The next time you want to use it, you will have to do the same thing, assuming it's more than a day later. I haven't found any other work around yet.

Is there any shortcuts for older cars? For example Saab 9-5 from 2001?
Yes I think the Saab card goes all the way back to 2000 or something like that. It might even be 1998. It has options for the 9-5 but I have yet to test it on one.

Is there any other tools you can use instead of the Mongoose Pro GM II?
The only other tool(s) I know of that might work are J2534-2 compliant tools that support the GM J2534-2 implementation. Tech2Win has an option to select ISO22900 or J2534-2 (could be -1, I apologize if I got this mixed up, I'm still learning all this nonsense). That would be, for example, a CarDAQ from DrewTech, but there are other tools out there from a lot of other manufacturers that support the -2 spec.

What is the requirements on the device? Any specific protocols etc?
I'm running all this on an old MacBook Pro 15" from 2007, running OSX 10.10 with Parallels 10 on an XP virtual machine. No issues. Protocols are built into the tool if you buy it. Just install the software for it and you are good to go. It will automatically be detected by Tech2Win if you follow the instructions correctly.

Thanks for the effort you've done so far regarding this.
I will follow this thread from now on.
You are welcome! I'm glad I took the plunge. After I got burned on a Chinese tool that my gut told me not to buy, I felt obligated to find a better way. Hopefully this is it for others. It works great for me! What's better is that I have a 2007 Yukon and I use Tech2Win for it as well, no issues, no problems. So I'm pretty darn happy.
 

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TXSaabStory I wanted to say thanks for being an invaluable member of this community. Trying stuff that no one has done before and properly documenting your learning is what makes a community go forward.
Next steps: Figure out a way to inhibit the "Service XWD" message from vacuuming 1k from your bank account every time.
 

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TXSaabStory, I'd like to also say a big thank you as well for taking some of your free time from your family to mess around with this stuff into order to help out your fellow saab members. This could be huge, and save people a lot of $$$. Once I get the apps and get everything working I hope to order the drewtech dongle and also contribute.
 

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TXSaabStory I wanted to say thanks for being an invaluable member of this community. Trying stuff that no one has done before and properly documenting your learning is what makes a community go forward.
Next steps: Figure out a way to inhibit the "Service XWD" message from vacuuming 1k from your bank account every time.
JJ you are welcome! Glad I could finally contribute something useful to the forum!
 
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