You obviously never been to a collector car auction or sale .I own several antiques and have watched the resale prices apriciate over the years . Kbb and nada is just a price "guide" not the law .Supply and demand and location is the bottom line . Nicer than average is worth much more than a Ebay or found in some ones yard junk you speak of. Just a smaller market . Some people like better than avarage . And will appricate in value with care and time . I only used the 83t just for a example of the older models bring $$$.If you want cheap wait at the crusher .If you wanted a gem see a collector. $2300 forPaulH said:i dont get it? that looks like a completely differnt car then what we're talking about here, an 83 turbo in mint condition with e-codes and lots of other modifications is not the same as a base model non turbo 84. i had one of those cars, and let me tell you, i would never ever pay that much for one of them. maybe like 10 or 15 years ago i would have, but keep in mind that its a 21 year old car! any car that old is going to have some issues, wether its been taken care of or not, and no matter how many miles it has on it. take a look at www.kbb.com, they dont go back that far, but for comparisons sake a 1985 900s in excellent condition is valued at a whopping $650 :roll:. its only places like the Saabnet classifieds that people pay crazy money like that for those cars, they can be found much much cheaper places like ebay, and peoples front lawns.
my family owns a 2002 with full options, cheap american garbage (sorry) it is sitting right next to my saab as we speak. the dash rattles and squeeks, very cheap overall build quality, lots of recalls including internal engine components (CHEAP CAR SYNRDOME) the depreciation is absoluteley terrible, we paid $37,000 in 2002 and today it is worth about $18,000. we have 3 GM products, a 1989 firebird (HORRIBLY UNRELIABLE!, engine rebuilt at 180,000km, tranny done as well, stated rusting after only 6 years old (cars not prone ot rusting here), we have a chevy express motorhome, lots of electrical issues, air con sucks, very cheap interior, motor home aspect (not gm) is great , we have 2 chrysler products, a 2000 dodge durango (great car) aside from balljoints, great tire life, and very very reliable. and a 1998 dodge dakota (not as great but not bad). my mom owns a HONDA very reliable but i don't liek it too much, but it a vast improvemnt over our american products. i guess it all comes down to what you liek in a carm I do not like american cars! YUCK! unreliable garbage, CHEAP CHEAP CHAEP, engineering sucks! lots of stupid stuff. YUCK YUCK! my parents have owned many many american cars and we have had many problems, when will the americans learn to build a transmission?900t said:Woy - a 1997 Grand Prix GTP model is a LOT of fun. Trust me...
one thing that can be said for most modern GM cars- they ARE reliable. I have a 1992 pontiac sunbird with 165K on it, and you would be hard pressed to find a toyota corolla from the same time period that's more reliable....900t said:The '98 GTP in my driveway is closing in on 250 000km. No rattles, no squeaks, no burning of oil, no rust, and it will burn the tires at 75km/h... everything is in good shape. Only mechanical failure was the fuel pump resistor, $45.