[SovangW]

about 2 years ago I lowered my car using koni sports and H&R Sport Spring (03+ Saab 9-3 Typ YS3F) 29319-2

It claimed a rake look, instead my front is higher and I hate it... Should put the lower vogtland up front?? Or just change out all the springs? GS says the springs i have is rated for a 30mm drop, i noticed vogtlands go lower. I want and even look at worst and raked at best.

 

[Diggs]

Will probably look the same. If you hate it that much you should just go coilovers.

 

[cupdeez]

about 2 years ago I lowered my car using koni sports and H&R Sport Spring (03+ Saab 9-3 Typ YS3F) 29319-2

It claimed a rake look, instead my front is higher and I hate it... Should put the lower vogtland up front?? Or just change out all the springs? GS says the springs i have is rated for a 30mm drop, i noticed vogtlands go lower. I want and even look at worst and raked at best.

Do you have a picture? The 1st vehicle I ever lowered I used springs and was not very happy. To change it you have to buy another spring and you still might not liked it.

Going forward I always purchase coilovers. I'm running fortune coilovers on my Saab 93.

http://www.fortune-auto.com/500series.htm

 

[SovangW]

so over a year after this post, the car still seems too low in back and high up front. Lol. I've seen cars with the same setup. This is not right. What could potentially be the issue? I do not wan't coil overs. I want to solve this issue.


H&R Springs 29319-2

 

[Rogozhin]

so over a year after this post, the car still seems too low in back and high up front. Lol. I've seen cars with the same setup. This is not right. What could potentially be the issue? I do not wan't coil overs. I want to solve this issue.


H&R Springs 29319-2

Do you have a picture that we can view? Can't you use those crappy spring spacers to fix the rears?

 

[SovangW]

sorry for the bad pics, my phone camera sucks. The lower is the rear (left pic) , higher is up front (right pic). I Will provide a better pic in the light tomorrow.

 

[swedespeed7]

Looks fine to me. Normal that the front is higher than rear to allow for greater suspension travel.

 

[Roscoe_P_Coltrane]

Have you measured from the bottom of the front and rear of the sideskirts to see of the rear is truly lower than the front? just going by the wheel arches is deceiving because I believe the front arches naturally run up higher than the rear arches. The larger gap in the front is not necessarily an accurate measurement for the actual front/rear height.

Here's a random pic of a stock 9-3. Notice how the front looks to be higher than the rear if you only focus on the wheel arches/gaps. The lowering springs might just be making this more apparent to your eyes.

 

[Mr.Chow]

yep he's exactly right. I'm guessing this is the issue.

 

[Capriman86]

I have the exact same setup though, Koni's with H&R's

Dead even stance, which I am thankful for btw, not to rub it in.

 

[swedespeed7]

Konis and H&Rs:

 

[Roscoe_P_Coltrane]

If both of those are 2.8Ts or xwd then the heavier loads my help even it out up front but even on that last one, it looks like the front arch is just a tad higher still. The rear tire looks slightly more tucked. Just the nature of the beast.

 

[swedespeed7]

If both of those are 2.8Ts or xwd then the heavier loads my help even it out up front but even on that last one, it looks like the front arch is just a tad higher still. The rear tire looks slightly more tucked. Just the nature of the beast.

yep, you are correct.

 

[kennyrayandersen]

I mean the front does look slightly higher, but not really by much. I don't think most people will notice it and it looks OK. I'm guessing if the front was much lower you get das rubbin!

 

[Aero-X]

Those look good but I would still like it slightly higher in the back. I think it looks much better when the back is higher plus you get more room to work with for additional weight from passengers and trunk. What if you go with a different set of springs in the back that don't lower as much?

 

[swedespeed7]

Those look good but I would still like it slightly higher in the back. I think it looks much better when the back is higher plus you get more room to work with for additional weight from passengers and trunk. What if you go with a different set of springs in the back that don't lower as much?

Yep you can do that. One guy on here went Eibach front, H&R rear.

 

[N_Raged]

Sovang have you ever replaced your rear upper control arms? When they're worn, they will cause the rear to sag. Also replace your rear upper rubber spring pad while you're at it. If you're still using your original pad then it might have rotted and squished over time.

There's also alignment adjustments you can do depending what your rim offset allows without rubbing. Get camber bolts for the front and increase the negative camber to about -1.5degrees. This will tuck the top of the wheel in a bit. As for the rear, you want as little negative camber as possible. But since the car is lowered, you might not get any straighter than -1 degree.

 

[aerosteel]

Yep you can do that. One guy on here went Eibach front, H&R rear.

I thought the H&R were lower than the Eibach.

 

[SovangW]

Sovang have you ever replaced your rear upper control arms? When they're worn, they will cause the rear to sag. Also replace your rear upper rubber spring pad while you're at it. If you're still using your original pad then it might have rotted and squished over time.

There's also alignment adjustments you can do depending what your rim offset allows without rubbing. Get camber bolts for the front and increase the negative camber to about -1.5degrees. This will tuck the top of the wheel in a bit. As for the rear, you want as little negative camber as possible. But since the car is lowered, you might not get any straighter than -1 degree.

I am slowly collecting the parts I need for the rear. I got 1 upper, i need 1 more, i have a lower control arm to replace the damage one. i have sway bar bushings, i need trailing arm bushings and control arm bushings. My end goal is a slight raked looked.

 

[swedespeed7]

I thought the H&R were lower than the Eibach.

They are. He did it for a completely different reason, but the principle works vice versa.