Well as a subscriber to CR I'm happy to see that the 9-3 gets a recommended rating d/t its move to average reliability. I have to agree thus far no major issues.
maybe this is finally starting to change: http://www.saturnfans.com/Company/2007/saturnsrecommendedbycr.shtmlNickshu said:Surprising to see them "recommend" any non-japanese car. The bias at CR is unbelieveable. They routinely rate brand new car models as "predicted reliabilityoor" based on no data at all, pure speculation. Even more surprising, the 9-5 has been a recommended car for a few years now, but they still say their reliability is "average".
Front page of MSN yesterday highlighted how Toyota have moved to average reliability per CR. Thats a pretty high profile page to put that on.inyrmnd said:Funny how C and R are the first two letters in C R A P. They're recommendations are not historically based on anything. I agree that they are highly Japanese friendly. They've never liked the 9-3. Boo CR!
Yes, and I'd say a lot more accurate. My mother has a Camry and it's pretty average all around. I think they feel safe in saying that Hondas and Toyotas are extremely reliable (which is true) and that European cars are not (because they are expensive to fix). To be fair, they need to also explore Safety and top mileage of vehicles. European cars go much further in both these areas! Especially SAAB. None of my Hondas ever made it past 200K.SMHarman said:Front page of MSN yesterday highlighted how Toyota have moved to average reliability per CR. Thats a pretty high profile page to put that on.
I'm afraid this is a very American attitude. Toyota's are made in plants all over the world, many European models are made in the UK. Each plant makes cars that tend to be tailored for each specific market, as other Japanese manufacturers do. So this may be true of the models you get in the US, but it is somewhat of a sweeping generalisation to state that Toyota is becoming a American car company.Krieg said:Toyota is not really a Japanese car company anymore. Little by little they're becoming an American car company, with American employees, and maybe American attitudes.