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does anyone happen to know, off hand, what the grams per km of a classic 900 would be (UK market, preferably Lucas)?

i know its not going to be good, but out of curiosity i want to know how or where it fits in the "league table" of cars CO2 emissions (office debate.... mate reckons his 3.2 Alfa is better than my car... as if :roll: )


for what its worth, i am also running 30% Bio-Ethanol, and no adverse side effects :cool:

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It's a direct function of the fuel efficiency... if you burn X gallons then you make Y kg of CO2 ;) I don't know what the equation is though.
 

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Dunno but the current 9-3 1.8t (2.0 LPT) runs at 178 g/km while the 2.0t runs at 194 g/km.

I've suddenly acquired an interest in this because the Irish government has now linked motor tax to CO2 emissions. Tax rates (per annum from July 2008) on new cars are:

  • < 120 g/km: EUR100
  • 121 - 140 g/km: EUR150
  • 141 - 155 g/km: EUR290
  • 156 - 170 g/km: EUR430
  • 171 - 190 g/km: EUR600 [Saab 9-3 1.8, 1.8t, 9-5 1.9 tiD]
  • 191 - 225 g/km: EUR1000 [Saab 9-3 2.0t, 1.8t auto, 9-5 2.0t, 2.3Hot]
  • > 225 g/km: EUR2000 [Saab 9-5 2.0t auto, 2.3Hot auto]

This compares with annual tax bills of EUR550 for a 2.0 and EUR630 for a 2.3 bought before July 2008. I predict chaos in the Irish motor industry in 2008...


Oh, and the CO2 rates apply to any car imported into the country after July 2008 so somebody in Irish revenue will be coming up with a CO2 figure for a C900 within the next year...
 

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Im not so shure,Where I live for example, the last time Our 1992 16v n/a was tested it made 3.49 grams per mile of C0 permile and 330.69 grams of C02. the 88 16v turbo made 13.4 gpm of C0 and 314.76 gpm of C02. In my state we dont currenly have a limit on C02.
 

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drg23 said:
does anyone happen to know, off hand, what the grams per km of a classic 900 would be (UK market, preferably Lucas)?
There won't be an official government figure. They didn't start to be tested until around 2000, shortly before the tax disc became based on g/km CO2.

i know its not going to be good, but out of curiosity i want to know how or where it fits in the "league table" of cars CO2 emissions (office debate.... mate reckons his 3.2 Alfa is better than my car... as if :roll: )
I reckon my T16 is slightly thirstier than the 2.0t autobox XM I had before. That did have an official figure, somewhere around 280g/km, IIRC.

Don't forget one of the jobs of a catalytic converter is to oxidise a bunch of other nasties into CO2... Helpful, huh?

Anyway - just point out to him that CO2 isn't everything, and all the new cars that he's bought over the last 17yrs have caused the use of a vast amount more energy and raw materials than your recycled Saab...

(then offer him a lift to the dealer to drop off/collect the Alfa from yet more work)
 

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so i'm generally looking between 280 and 314 grams per mile....
(173 - 194 g/km)

in the UK that works out as about what i pay now (£200 per year).....
happy days ;)

taken from the dvla website....
 

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Oh, and the CO2 rates apply to any car imported into the country after July 2008 so somebody in Irish revenue will be coming up with a CO2 figure for a C900 within the next year...
How will they deal with aftermarket LPG installs? My 99 on LPG emits less CO2 than on petrol?
 

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Matthew said:
That's not the age of the car - it's because yourLPG install is DIY and you don't have a certificate from a registered installer.
I do have a certificate - my install was checked by an LPGa approved person (not that the LPGa requirements are particularily stringent!) and they gave me a cert for it (needed for insurance).
To be congestion charge exempt in an lpg saab it needs to be a 2003+ 9-3 converted by one of a couple of converters.
list linked from here - http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/fleet/cityschemes/congestioncharge/
 
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