Like the BLS, y'mean? Saab 93ss with Caddy badges. Sold so well they're quietly dropping it already. Don't think they've even hit 50 sales in the UK, and they're still trying to punt out 2006 stock... The only one I've seen was a rental.earthworm said:If this 2009 Saab 9-5 is to be "all-new", then there should be a Cadillac based on it -a bit less power, softer ride, more luxurious - to compete against Mercedes,Lexus..
With one goal , the new standard of the world - the new Caddy - based on a Saab.
Who?What would Dick Grossman think ??
Anythings possible ...Madmickey said:Hi
Are we likely to see the engine bay packed with engine efficiency improvements such as the much rumoured Electrical asist turbo. Variable valve technology etc?
Oh, yes F.I.A.T. 's really wonderful diesel, but detuned from the version they are using in F.I.A.T's cars and trucks.:lol:edusaab said:well.....Cadillac it has its new CTS, launched recently and with an all new 2.8 diesel engine for europe, developed with VM Motori and GMPowertrain Turin.
Let's see what happens with its sales in Europe.
Honestly, I think a TT 3.6L would be a little overkill -- unless its purpose is for spool characteristics only.SaabKen said:My guess is it will feature some variation of the GM 3.6L V6, maybe twin-turbo'd
WetLlama said:Honestly, I think a TT 3.6L would be a little overkill -- unless its purpose is for spool characteristics only.
In the U.S., I'd like to see the 2.8T as the base engine (280HP), followed by an NA, direct-injection 3.6L (300-320HP) for the mid-range, and then a single-turbo, DI 3.6L (330-380HP) for the top of the range, Aero version. XWD should only be an option on the upper trim levels, and they'd BETTER include a 6-speed manual transmission... :evil: :cheesy:
Here are the major competitors (as I see it):
Acura RL (2008): 290HP V6; AWD; $53,000
Audi A6 (2008): 350HP V8; AWD; $55,000
BMW 550 (2008): 360HP V8; RWD; $58,000
Infiniti M45 (2007): 325HP V8; RWD; $50,000
Lexus GS 430 (2007): 290HP V8; RWD; $54,000
Mercedes-Benz E550 (2008): 382HP V8; AWD; $60,000
Volvo S80 (2008): 311HP V8; AWD; $49,000
These are the top-of-the-line models from the manufacturers that the 9-5 Aero should be competing with. If SAAB can offer a high-quality, AWD, 380HP, mid-sized sedan, and keep it relatively close to its current price... they should mop the floor with these guys.
that's why lexus shoehorned the LS460 engine into the GS...SaabKen said:Interesting list. From what I've read, the RL has been slow to get out of dealers lots, and the GS hasn't won too many car mags' hearts. More interesting is they both are rated under the 300HP mark, surprisingly the GS's 4.3L V8 is not cranking out nearly as much bhp/liter as it could be.
Wow, you're right... my trusty car site didn't have the 2008 GS460 listed, but Edmunds does. Interesting. Also to note, for 2008 the Infiniti M45 gets an AWD variant.ACBarnett said:that's why lexus shoehorned the LS460 engine into the GS...