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Hi Guys,

I just wondered how many of you got an Amp 1 after you got the car. Was the connector (under the passenger seat) already there?

I have this plug there and I am trying to find out if that means that a previous owner had the amp in there but took it out before selling, or if all the (3's have this in anticipation for when (not if, cus Saab know we we all have to upgrade from the dire basic system!) we upgrade to Amp1.

If this is the case, then I assume all i need to do is plug it in, get it tech 2'd and away I go.

Help please :confused:
 

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My 04 2.2Tid hasn't got anything already fitted.

The guy at my independant said it is just the luck of the draw if it is there or not.

He told me mine would finish in the passenger footwell somewhere so I would need the extension to get it under the seat. (are you looking at the ebay one??) I am considering it but it is a little more than I wanted to spend (even more with the extra cable and Tech2)
 

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Thanks Chr15gb,

I do remember Boyd.lynn saying that his only went as far as the footwell and that he needed the cabling to take it under the seat, which is why i assumed iff mine was already under the seat that it may be a complete wiring set up. I will plug it in andget it tech 2'd up and see where i stand with it.

the strange thing is that where my wire comes out is on the door side, as opposed to coming out from under the centre console....

wish me luck!

no, i havent seen the one on Ebay. I'm not looking at buying another one just yet, maybe in the new year. After getting the ICM3, the amp, auto-dimming rear view mirror, chrome steering wheel controls and gear box surround, stainless steel number plate surround...I think i've spent enough for this year...

next move is colour coding the skirts and getting better alloys. then Im done. BTW, have you seen the ICM3 for £350 buy it now on fleabay?
 

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ok, i spoke to another dealer today who informed me that the installation of the amp was a very complicated job, even with all the wires there, it wasnt as simple as plugging it in and tech 2ing it... he said a few other things that made my eyes glaze over and said that they could do it for a couple of hundred (pounds).


Is it really that complex a job, even with all the necessary wiring, or is this another case of stealership hard at work?

anyone who has had this done, please help :(
 

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L_Boogie said:
Thanks Chr15gb,


the strange thing is that where my wire comes out is on the door side, as opposed to coming out from under the centre console....


next move is colour coding the skirts and getting better alloys. then Im done. BTW, have you seen the ICM3 for £350 buy it now on fleabay?

That makes sense to me. My independant did describe where the termination was which was the door side of the passenger footwell. I thought I may have misunderstood, after all, surely it is common sense to run it along the centre console!!

I am of the understanding that once it is connected up it is a simple Tech2.

My independant told me if I didnt have the door speakers he could use the amp to feed the 6x9's on the rear parcel shelf (or even both the door and the rears).

I could then reconnect the small 4" rubbish things I disconnected when I fitted the 6x9's at the rear parcel shelf.


I have seen the ICM3 for £370. I think it is too much myself. I paid £200 delivered for mine. He has relisted at least once after failing to sell at £225 (reserve not met).


I was looking at an Auto dimming rear view mirror but it went for over £80!!
I had an email from a Saab garage quoting £57 for a new one!!
 

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Chr15GB,

is your indie in London? I ask cus i remember you said you got your car from Saab City. If so and they are reasonable, let me know. I might give em a call to see what they say about my set up. I just got a pair of Kenwood 6x9's and if i can connect the amp straight to that, as i dont have the door speakers yet, I'd like to go for that option.


Yeah I think anything over £200 is asking too much... who do they think they are... main dealers?

as for the auto-dimming mrror, £57 for a new one is a damn good price. i paid that price for a used one from Neo brothers.
 

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The Indie I use is in Bristol

http://www.simply-saab.com/

The auto mirror I used one of the parts sites which sends emails to all Saab main dealers up and down the country (cant recall which one it was (Car Parts Connexion or something)).
Any dealers with the parts in stock send you an email.

The cheapest mirror was £57 from a Coventry dealer.

I also asked about Parking Sensors, cheapest I found was (I think) £300 fitted or £240 for the kit.
 

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Bristol... I guess I wont be using them. Thanks anyways.


I know parts connexions... real good site.

Here's the frustrating thing... no 2 dealers / specialists say the same thing... just phoned Neo Brothers to get their take on the Amp plug... they reckon that it should be the complete wiring loom (I'm so confused right now :confused:), and it should be ok to just plug it in, and get it tech 2'd....


Is there any danger in just plugging it in and getting it tech 2'd up, or is this likely to crash the fibre optic bus (as suggested by a main dealer)?
 

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SMHarman said:
Only audio signals go round the fibre anyway it is not going to mean the car won't talk to itself.
I think the o-bus is used for other things. Apparently it's still present on the 2007 cars, but the audio no longer uses it. There are some posts that describe this, by gjdavies maybe?
 

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You may have a point. The fibre needs to be in a complete loop. Actually just plugging it in under the seat for Amp 1 will not affect the loop until you reshuffle some of the plugs behind on the EHU.

Even then as long as it is still in a loop you are golden.

Think about it many 03 owners have taken the onstar box out of their setup. As long as the most loopback connecter is put in place of the onstar box (keeping the loop intact) the car does not care.
 

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>>I have this plug there and I am trying to find out if that means that a previous owner had the amp in there but took it out before selling, or if all the (3's have this in anticipation for when (not if, cus Saab know we we all have to upgrade from the dire basic system!) we upgrade to Amp1.

Hi. Apologies for the late response. (Christmas and all)

I bought an AMP1 from eBay and thought that I was in luck because I had a black connecter under my passenger seat which looked like it would plug straight into the amplifier. It has power, speaker and fibre optic connections so I thought that I was sorted.

I took it to my local Saab dealer and they said that they would fit the amplifier and 3 extra speakers for £200. However they called me while doing the job and said that I needed some extra fibre-optic cables. I was gob-smacked because it looked like it just being case of plugging in the connector under the passenger seat. However I checked with an independant dealer(parts-asap I think) and they confirmed what the saab dealer had told me. As my car was in pieces I felt that my only option was to spend the £160 that the dealer wanted for the fibre optic cables.

So in the end I spent £490 to upgrade form 4 to 7 speakers. I now have some bass but my Volkswagen Touran still sounds much better. On reflection i don't know if I should have bothered!

(They also managed to damage the dash surround which fortunately they replaced for free)
 

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Boyd.lynn,

soory about my late response... holidays and all that.

Happy New year to you all.

I'm going to try and book it in and see... I'm hoping that if there are any extra leads needed, those will be what i got with the amp... I love my car to bits but Saab really screwed us over on this and other issues...
 

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>>I love my car to bits but Saab really screwed us over on this and other issues...

Yes I'm just about to trade mine in if I have any more problems.

It's going back to the garage today for the following.

1. Ventilation fan constantly screeching
2. Clunky front suspension that's getting worse.
3. Offside rear wheel rumbles at speed

Hopefully I can get the warranty to pay for at least some of it. Here is what I want in my next car

1. Gentle ride. I don't want every man hole to shake my fillings loose.
2. Solid build. No dash rattles and flaky plastic coatings.
3. Satnav and decent stereo
4. Full leather instead of half leather with cream inserts. Nightmare to keep clean.
5. Reliable
6. Low depreciation

Maybe this is unobtainable but it would be nice. In fact apart from number 2 (It's got that flaky plastic coating on the dash) my VW matches all these :D .
 

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I hear ya Boyd.Lynn, I only just got mine in May so Im gonna stick with it for a while, but the warranty is a definite must. BTW, so as not to detract from this post tto much, I'll PM you about your warranty.
 

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JugGerNaut said:
question: what are you guys talking about when you say "tech 2'd"?
When you have to take the car back to Saab for programming.

They connect a box to the car and program the car to accept the new modification.

Without the Tech2 the new parts will not function (even adding an Amp to the stereo).


Think of it as a little box Saab own which prints money!
 
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