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So I'm just reading up on my stuff, looking into AFR Wideband 02 sensors. Anyone have any experience with a wideband on the t8, and how does it perform? Any experience with logworks, or any other tuning program you run (mac or pc)? Setup you're running, and brand? My downpipe has a pre welded bung where I can plug one right in, want to see if the ECU will cooperate or not.
 

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I know in simplicity the gauge gives me the mixture ratio, trust me the last thing i would do is buy a fancy bit that does nothing but flash a number at me...Im looking more at understanding tuning....but when I flash my ecu with the tune from john, i know it adjusts certain things...but my question was if the ignition and timing can FINE tuned with a wideband, controller and software while driving on the street, and would it help everything cooperate better. GenuineSaab has a wideband kit with logworks software on their website, wasn't sure if it was compatible with the t8.
 

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I know in simplicity the gauge gives me the mixture ratio, trust me the last thing i would do is buy a fancy bit that does nothing but flash a number at me...Im looking more at understanding tuning....but when I flash my ecu with the tune from john, i know it adjusts certain things...but my question was if the ignition and timing can FINE tuned with a wideband, controller and software while driving on the street, and would it help everything cooperate better. GenuineSaab has a wideband kit with logworks software on their website, wasn't sure if it was compatible with the t8.
it has nothing to do with t8, like i said its just a gauge that displays numbers you either data log it or record it under load. a wideband sensor does not adjust anything it only displays your air to fuel ratio in a readable and accurate output, and that display is used by your tuner to increase or decrease the amount of fuel injected, ignition added ect. If you want to get your tune refined your going to need to datalog not only your AFR but your cam and ignition timings, your knocks, and possibly your egts. The other thing is you have to get this data to john in order, its better off that you had him sitting in the car tuning it.

The other thing is john has significantly refined his tune several times its pretty refined hes done a tune for sea level and a tune for mile plus and i know that he spent time in both cars making it better, so i dont think your going to get anything better than what you would get in the flash.

if you want an afr kit just pick up a aem or an innovative, i built my own if you know what your doing you can goto 14point7.com
 

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it has nothing to do with t8, like i said its just a gauge that displays numbers you either data log it or record it under load. a wideband sensor does not adjust anything it only displays your air to fuel ratio in a readable and accurate output, and that display is used by your tuner to increase or decrease the amount of fuel injected, ignition added ect. If you want to get your tune refined your going to need to datalog not only your AFR but your cam and ignition timings, your knocks, and possibly your egts. The other thing is you have to get this data to john in order, its better off that you had him sitting in the car tuning it.

The other thing is john has significantly refined his tune several times its pretty refined hes done a tune for sea level and a tune for mile plus and i know that he spent time in both cars making it better, so i dont think your going to get anything better than what you would get in the flash.

if you want an afr kit just pick up a aem or an innovative, i built my own if you know what your doing you can goto 14point7.com
I sent an email to him as well. I'm not really questioning his work by any means, just trying to see if anything is necessary to my goals with the car, and learn more about the actual aspects of tuning it. Mainly because hes on the other side of the country, and ive heard people said that its better to run it on a dyno (which the locals wont touch my car because its a saab and they dont have the software :evil:) and even better to tune it on the street, by "better" im talking about precise mixture in all rpms....which im sure you know about. I dont quite have the knowledge about tuning specifics to argue...soooo...lol thought id ask around and figure it out
 

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usually you do dyno to get a base tune then you go out on the street and do a refine tuning. Because your car is a saab you will need a specialist tuner, and thats mostly because tuners know the software they work on. The basics are all the same but its working around the software that you have the biggest issues, If your looking for someone to do tuning i would suggest "brew city boost", im pretty sure "rabbit" the site member and tuner lives in milwaukee which is not too far from ohio. He offers T8 tuning for around 250 dollars and he seems like a good guy, and since he knows the software im sure he could hook you up with a really refined tune.
 
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