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Matthew said:Disappointing that only 10% maximum of engine torque will be transferred to the rear wheels. Compare to some of Audi's Quattro 4WD systems where a maximum of 30% ends up at the front wheels.
So still essentially FWD then.
There I said it, while the 9-3ss is a nice car it's nothing close to what's needed to beat the germans and now the japanese. AWD isn't enough, that's just a band-aid fix to make a car with a poor chassis handle like one that was properly engineered. The fact that the 9-3 isn't offered with any engine that you can't get in a vectra really stands out to the automotive press and the rest of the car isn't enough to make up for that. To simply equal the germans and the TL, IS, G35, and now the hyundai genesis, GM's going to need to give saab a car with a stiff chassis, precise, communicative steering, and handling dynamics that are equal to that BMW, Audi, and Infiniti can do. Then XWD can be the icing on the cake.deniss said:Sounds like a great review, mostly directed at the XWD.
Certainly it's nice if SAAB can compete well with the Germans and the Japanese on that level of AWD performance - maybe it will gain some new customers this way. But I still think the 9-3 SS in its standard 2.0T and Aero versions are not getting enough attention. I think they are really sweet cars. On Edmunds, customers rank the 2007 9-3 in the high 9's on a 10-scale! But many popular professional reviewers still sort of snub the car - sometimes I feel that's just because its just a rebadged vectra with little to prove otherwise.
I drove the TL and compared it against the 9-3 test-drive. I didn't like the TL. Yes, it had a fabulous interior, but I felt disconnected from the car, and I hated the shifter/clutch behavior. It was a strong engine that did not feel inspiring. The 9-3 really makes me smile to drive it, even despite the less refined ride and the less refined interior.ACBarnett said:Who is going to buy a 9-3 aero fwd when an acura TL makes makes more power, has a better shifter, has a much higher-quality interior and costs the same amount of money.
ACBarnett said:I just hope that GM sees fit to give the next-gen 9-5 and 9-3 the CTS-quality interior, BMW-level engines and BMW-level handling that the brand needs to go along with those aero-X looks. QUOTE]
GM is never going to make an engine as good as BMW. BMW does many things wrong or poorly like window regulators, but they know engines. They also know chassis tuning you would have to think Porsche for something better.
The new 9-3 XWD may end up being pretty sweet. Let's give it a chance. In a year they can turn up the boost to give it some sizzle.