[jdwertz]

So I am looking into upgrading to a full stainless 3" exhaust w/ cat. Yes I know...but it is required in PA and its my DD. Anyway I have checked a few places including Jak Stoll and prices seem a bit high. Any recommendations?

Thanks

 

['97 Saab SE Turbo]

Do you mean that a full stainless exhaust is required in PA, or that a cat is required in PA? Only 17 out of almost 100 counties in Ohio do an e-check... Ron

 

[jdwertz]

Do you mean that a full stainless exhaust is required in PA, or that a cat is required in PA? Only 17 out of almost 100 counties in Ohio do an e-check... Ron

a cat, sorry I should have worded it a bit better.

 

[sleeper9kt]

Considering stainless downpipe alone is around $500 (using 9-3 or 9-5 as an example, since they are more commonly available), so I would image an entire stainless exhaust system that is well made is going is not going to be cheap at all.

What sort of price are you looking for?

 

[jdwertz]

I realize stainless is much more expensive, im just looking for some recommendations apart from JSP. I know a lot of people get a JT system but its not stainless and I have to ship it from the UK.

 

[SpecialTool]

So I am looking into upgrading to a full stainless 3" exhaust w/ cat. Yes I know...but it is required in PA and its my DD. Anyway I have checked a few places including Jak Stoll and prices seem a bit high. Any recommendations?

Thanks

Are you sure about this "upgrade"? I test drove a C900 with a 3" exhaust recently and didn't like the sound at all. Much too boy-racer tryhard for me. Maybe I'm just showing my age...

Anyway, I would make sure you get the chance to hear the system on a C900 before buying.

 

[DKDunn04]

If you REALLY want it, here it is. Pretty expensive though.

http://www.group9performance.com/in...ar=82&makeid=SA&modelid=900-T-001&catalogid=1

 

[sleeper9kt]

Another option would be to find a local place that can weld up an exhaust for you. Some people are able to find good custom shops in their area who can do full exhausts for a pretty reasonable cost. It can't hurt to call around!

 

[jdwertz]

Are you sure about this "upgrade"? I test drove a C900 with a 3" exhaust recently and didn't like the sound at all. Much too boy-racer tryhard for me. Maybe I'm just showing my age...

Anyway, I would make sure you get the chance to hear the system on a C900 before buying.

excellent suggestion, I have heard the JT and I like it a lot, and doesn't sound too ricey at all. I know a lot of people worry about that before they install the JT but end of liking it a lot. Plus it is supposedly decently quite at low rpms.

Another option would be to find a local place that can weld up an exhaust for you. Some people are able to find good custom shops in their area who can do full exhausts for a pretty reasonable cost. It can't hurt to call around!

I have done a little calling around but I would rather have a c900 specialist or someone who has done one before. I am afraid of all the horror stories I have heard about and seen.

If you REALLY want it, here it is. Pretty expensive though.

http://www.group9performance.com/inv...01&catalogid=1

ouch...JSP was cheaper than that

 

[white65]

If you REALLY want it, here it is. Pretty expensive though.

http://www.group9performance.com/in...ar=82&makeid=SA&modelid=900-T-001&catalogid=1

I think group9 is done anyway, as in out of business.
I remember many customers having troubles at the end.
Does anyone know why the website is still up?

 

[Squaab99t]

I have done a little calling around but I would rather have a c900 specialist or someone who has done one before. I am afraid of all the horror stories I have heard about and seen.



ouch...JSP was cheaper than that

Not 3" but 2.5". 3" is required for some pretty big flow HPs. +300 bhp?
http://www.abbottracing.net/product.php?id_product=47
The real key is getting a nice bend at the turbo elbow to reduce spool up time.
Mine is a combo of Skandix, Kevin Yamamoto's DP and my own to fit it all together.
http://www.saabphotos.com/gallery/900T-Downpipe-and-Exhuast
2.5" dia and 235WHP on a Mustang dyno.

 

[Greyspg]

http://www.mandrelbendingsolutions.com/servlet/StoreFront make your own. magnaflow muffler and cat with a resonated tip. perfect.

 

[Racerquinny93]

well seeing im from your area, i think our PA regs are as long as it looks like you have a catalytic converter on. you can have it installed for inspection, then as soon as you get home put a straight pipe up there.


i go to school in west chester, well exton. for uti.....i drive my saab there everydarn day. dont see many saabs down that way.

 

[supremedalek]

http://www.mandrelbendingsolutions.com/servlet/StoreFront make your own. magnaflow muffler and cat with a resonated tip. perfect.

Is that site down?

 

[jdwertz]

http://www.mandrelbendingsolutions.com/servlet/StoreFront make your own. magnaflow muffler and cat with a resonated tip. perfect.

Unfortunately I dont have a welder or the know-how;oops:

 

[sleeper9kt]

I have done a little calling around but I would rather have a c900 specialist or someone who has done one before. I am afraid of all the horror stories I have heard about and seen.

Nothing inherently special about what brand of car someone is working on when doing something like this. Just find a decent fabricator, anyone with half a brain and decent welding skills should be able to lay the exhaust in place under the car and weld it up.

ouch...JSP was cheaper than that

And that is a fair price for what you are asking. You simply aren't going to find someone doing ready to install systems for much less than $1,000. As noted, you're looking at are $500 for stainless downpipes, and there is quite a bit more material and labor involved in an entire exhaust system...unless you can find someone selling their fabrication time for cheap!

 

[Boosted]

I built my own 3" last year and have well over $1k in materials. Custom exhausts often aren't cheap.

Sounds pretty good though. I often turn the radio down when I'm running through the gears.

 

[saabreur]

lovely header/collector, Boosted!

Did you find that it was beneficial? Many theorise that headers with a turbo provide no benefit; I'm interested in your experience. Can't imagine that you went to all the effort to produce such a nice looking project just for the looks!

Were the individual pipes equal length? Again, theory suggests that differences in length are of no great consequence.

Please share what you've learned...

 

[Boosted]

lovely header/collector, Boosted!

Did you find that it was beneficial? Many theorise that headers with a turbo provide no benefit; I'm interested in your experience. Can't imagine that you went to all the effort to produce such a nice looking project just for the looks!

Were the individual pipes equal length? Again, theory suggests that differences in length are of no great consequence.

Please share what you've learned...

I didn't build the header so I wasn't responsbile for it's design. The primaries aren't equal length so it still sounds like a c900. The primaries I think are too big, they are 1.75". 1.5" would be a better size. I do get to run an external wastegate and the car doesn't have quiet the kick of torque it used to so that's a good thing.

I don't know about the equal length thing. I would think that the best design would be one that has the shortest possible path to the turbo so the gas pulses don't lose any velocity.