[martianable]

EDIT -
To put it simply - take your time and don't rush headlong into cutting those hard fuel hoses on top of the fuel pump - especially on a 2006 9-5 because the pump won't come out the top hole - it's not a big huge deal to unmount the tank and drop the exhaust and unclip the parking brake lines. It just takes a little time but really it's pretty easy. Just be safe about it and use the right equipment / jack stands etc. on level ground if you're doing it as a DIY'er
I ordered my part from AMZ / Spectra Premium SP5121M Fuel Pump Assembly and will update this post after some time in the event the pump doesn't last but I have faith

Hi All,
Intermittent starting for a month - then she quit starting altogether - I was thinking it was either fuel related or electrical. After a few sleepless nights worrying about it ( novice here ) I saw a write up that said "just whack the tank" - which I knew I could confidently do! I went under the back seat and gently tapped the top of the fuel pump assembly with a rubber mallet and viola ! She started right up !! I drove her around the block and went inside feeling very accomplished and said "Honey I figured it out - come look!" We went outside and I turned the key - no juice again!

I'm fairly confident I need a new fuel pump - she's not making any noise at all when I turn the key - ( but she did rumble after the first whack with the mallet ) - so I am looking for the fuel pump ordering information -

I read the write ups from:

DIY - Saab 9-5 : Fuel Pump Replacement and
Al's Red Wagon - Fuel pump support needed...
plus others -
I'm a bit pensive about the clips and such ( sorry to hear about Josdek's bad luck ) but I'm going to take it real slow with a lot of lubricant and such -

Can anyone confirm the part number as a Bosch 69424 ?

I'd like to order it up front so I don't have the tank unsealed for a week under the back seat while the part is coming in the mail -

thanks in advance !

 

[horsehockey]

Unfortunately, the DIY video is for 2005 and older. For reasons too long to explain here, the fuel pump cannot be removed from under the rear seat on the 2006 model year. You have to drop the fuel tank replace the pump. I haven’t had to do this yet, so others can weigh in on the process.

 

[steve12955]

Yes, ‘06+ requires tank removal made more difficult if the tank has fuel in it - so you’ll need a trolley jack, wood blocks and room to slide it out from under the car.

It’s a PITA but doable in a garage on jack stands (I’ve done it on 9-3s). The other potential issue is rusty tank straps which may require replacement. You’ll also need a fuel pipe clamp removal tool as well as appropriate sockets and extensions, etc.

32500873 by Orio | Fuel Pump (06-09 9-5)

32500873 by SAAB | Fuel Pump (06-09 9-5) | Fits Saab 9-5 | eSaabParts: Saab Parts, Done Right.

www.esaabparts.com

 

[andybisnut]

Yes, ‘06+ requires tank removal made more difficult if the tank has fuel in it - so you’ll need a trolley jack, wood blocks and room to slide it out from under the car.

It’s a PITA but doable in a garage on jack stands (I’ve done it on 9-3s). The other potential issue is rusty tank straps which may require replacement. You’ll also need a fuel pipe clamp removal tool as well as appropriate sockets and extensions, etc.

32500873 by Orio | Fuel Pump (06-09 9-5)

32500873 by SAAB | Fuel Pump (06-09 9-5) | Fits Saab 9-5 | eSaabParts: Saab Parts, Done Right.

www.esaabparts.com

I think that Orio-branded pump is a ProParts part. ProParts doesn't have the best reputation for quality or longevity.

@martianable - on my 2006, I personally went with the Spectra Premium SP5121M. My pump was actually working fine, but my fuel gauge wasn't working due to a faulty level sender. I decided just to have the whole pump assembly replaced, since the tank drop makes it a pain and I didn't want to have it done again. I paid a shop to do the install, as I just didn't feel like dropping the tank. I think they charged me for three hours of labor which felt fair.

My old fuel pump works, it's just the level sender that's bad. I've heard actual pump failures on the 06+ pumps are rare. If you wanted a bit of a DIY project, I'd be willing to send you my old fuel pump assembly for the cost of shipping. You'd just have to replace the level sender, which if yours was good on your pump you could just swap in yours. Might be more of a hassle than you want to deal with though. Just throwing it out there.

 

[horsehockey]

I could be wrong, but I think Oreo is the name of the new OEM provider, at least for DIC’s. So I am wondering if in fact, the Oreo fuel pump is a pro parts part in which case I would avoid as Andy has suggested.

 

[steve12955]

ProParts is a different part number. If you open the esaabparts link I included, and click on the listing box above the diagram, you’ll see ProParts is listed as not available.

If in doubt, I’d contact esaabparts and ask them.

 

[Saaberachi]

Sounds like a loose connection. Do you have a volt tester?

 

[jvanabra]

ProParts is a different part number. If you open the esaabparts link I included, and click on the listing box above the diagram, you’ll see ProParts is listed as not available.

If in doubt, I’d contact esaabparts and ask them.

Orio buys parts from ProParts then repackages them as "Saab Original Parts" with the appropriate part number... so essabparts will have two identical parts, one Original and one ProParts with two different part numbers at two different costs. It's quite annoying.

I don't have any knowledge about this particular part, but I too would be inclined to believe the Saab Original is also ProParts.

@andybisnut - did you take note or any photos of the Spectra part you got? Any markings that suggest where it came from? When I bought a Carter pump for my '08 9-3 Aero, what I got was a 100% OE TI (nee Walbro) part, which made me very happy.

 

[steve12955]

“Orio buys parts from ProParts then repackages them as "Saab Original Parts" with the appropriate part number... so essabparts will have two identical parts, one Original and one ProParts with two different part numbers at two different costs. It's quite annoying.

I don't have any knowledge about this particular part, but I too would be inclined to believe the Saab Original is also ProParts.”
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If you’re not sure about this product, then whoever is interested in it should contact esaabparts directly.

 

[horsehockey]

Orio North America upholds the heritage of its parent company, Orio AB, a global automotive parts and logistics company headquartered in Nyköping, Sweden and owned by the Swedish Government.Sep 19, 2017

Press release distribution, EDGAR filing, XBRL, regulatory filings | Business Wire › home
Orio's “Parts for Life” Initiative to Keep Saab Cars on the Road | Business Wire

 

[Windsor]

See if you can find a Walbro

 

[martianable]

I think that Orio-branded pump is a ProParts part. ProParts doesn't have the best reputation for quality or longevity.

@martianable - on my 2006, I personally went with the Spectra Premium SP5121M. My pump was actually working fine, but my fuel gauge wasn't working due to a faulty level sender. I decided just to have the whole pump assembly replaced, since the tank drop makes it a pain and I didn't want to have it done again. I paid a shop to do the install, as I just didn't feel like dropping the tank. I think they charged me for three hours of labor which felt fair.

My old fuel pump works, it's just the level sender that's bad. I've heard actual pump failures on the 06+ pumps are rare. If you wanted a bit of a DIY project, I'd be willing to send you my old fuel pump assembly for the cost of shipping. You'd just have to replace the level sender, which if yours was good on your pump you could just swap in yours. Might be more of a hassle than you want to deal with though. Just throwing it out there.

@andybisnut - Thank You Sir !! I will consider that and I must say again !! THANKS !! - read below what I have done already - lol - yeah I did that / cut / cut -

 

[martianable]

What a cavalcade of famous names here ! - my mind was swirling with all the different posts I read and it's great to see that you're all still alive, given the dates of most of the posts I read concerning this issue - lol - @andybisnut @steve12955 @horsehockey @jvanabra - - but where's @Al's red wagon and @Josdek ? lol
I'm very grateful to all responders and would like to report that am trying to nail down one boot of mine - so I don't go too fast on this job - well..... I must admit I already made a mistake I fear - I tried to see if I could wiggle things out from the top - under the back seat - ( my mother always said I was too rambunctious ) - so I cut the hard plastic, before I read about them fully - ugh

I am going to drop the tank and do things the correct way - more to come

 

[steve12955]

Get the correct fuel line removal tool - they’re plastic and cheap - and be careful when separating the plastic lines from the hard lines on the car. They are liquid fuel and vapor lines and if you mess them up you’ll surely have an EVAP code/check engine light and it’ll fail an emissions check.

 

[andybisnut]

Orio buys parts from ProParts then repackages them as "Saab Original Parts" with the appropriate part number... so essabparts will have two identical parts, one Original and one ProParts with two different part numbers at two different costs. It's quite annoying.

I don't have any knowledge about this particular part, but I too would be inclined to believe the Saab Original is also ProParts.

@andybisnut - did you take note or any photos of the Spectra part you got? Any markings that suggest where it came from? When I bought a Carter pump for my '08 9-3 Aero, what I got was a 100% OE TI (nee Walbro) part, which made me very happy.

Unfortunately I did not take any photos or observe any details of the new pump. I paid a garage to install it for me, as it was cold at the time and I didn't feel like dropping the tank in a cold garage. I did keep the old pump though, which was working fine except for the level sender.

 

[andybisnut]

@andybisnut - Thank You Sir !! I will consider that and I must say again !! THANKS !! - read below what I have done already - lol - yeah I did that / cut / cut -

Just for reference - and someone else can chime in - if you go the route of replacing the sending unit, I am fairly certain this level sender works with our cars' pumps even though Amazon says it doesn't fit.

Amazon.com

 

[martianable]

I'm wondering if I can re-attach the lines I cut from the top of the fuel pump assembly ? maybe a heat gun to soften them up then push them on ?? - does anyone have any experience ? - Does the tool attach as well as remove ?
yes - I'm going to do it all on the bench and make sure there is no fuel around to burn with the heat gun ( if applicable )
thanks again in advance guys !!

 

[martianable]

Just for reference - and someone else can chime in - if you go the route of replacing the sending unit, I am fairly certain this level sender works with our cars' pumps even though Amazon says it doesn't fit.

Amazon.com

thanks Andy - this is looking like a good plan so far - still working on getting the tank down today - yeee haw !

 

[steve12955]

No, you can’t reattach the lines you cut but you don’t have to: the hard plastic lines are preformed and come attached with the new pump. That’s why on ‘06 US/CA and later pumps you can’t work through the panel in the floor - creating lots more work.

This is an example of a fuel line disconnect tool.

Fuel Line and A/C Quick Disconnect Tool, 6 Piece

Amazing deals on this Fuel Line And A/C Quick Disconnect Tool at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

www.harborfreight.com

There are other types, too, so Google it. Basically, you spread open the plastic tool to fit around and inside the fitting that connects the plastic lines to the hard lines attached to the car and slide it towards the fitting to release it. The fittings are brittle and there are o-rings inside the fitting so don’t try to pry on them or use another tool or you risk damaging them. The pump produces 40-45 psi pressure so if you fubar a fitting you’re screwed.

 

[martianable]

UPDATE - the tank is out - wasn't so bad of a job if you like laying on your back on a cold Saturdayin PA - below are the pics -

1. SO yeah I CUT the lines from the top of the pump thinking I could pull things out inside the car - WRONG -
2. I removed the pump assembly on the bench and found something strange - there was a spring bouncing around in the tank.
   1. Only one spring installed on the pump assembly - it seems there should be more ?
3. The smaller line which lets air out of the tank (next to the fill line which is a large tube) had epoxy on the connector - leading me to believe that someone's been 'eating my porridge/ sleeping in my bed' i.e. been there before doing the same thing. I don't have any info on past repairs on this car.
   1. The parking brake lines weren't routed under the tank straps but layed over them, which also indicates a weird fix previously.
   2. The intermediary heat shield was installed and crumpled into the sheild in front of it.