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I have a saab 9-3 base model (185bhp) and I understand it has 20 less horsepower then the SE model (205bhp), but the same engine. What is different between the 2? Thanks.
 

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the se has a crossflow intercooler and I think it has a td04 mitsu turbo and the ecu is tuned differently!
 

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the se has a better intercooler and a more aggressive ecu, the turbo is the same (garret t25) but the se is tuned for more boost(around 17 psi) base is around (12 ish).
 

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the se has a better intercooler and a more aggressive ecu, the turbo is the same (garret t25) but the se is tuned for more boost(around 17 psi) base is around (12 ish).
Nope, SE has a TD04 and Viggen intercooler.
 

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the se has a better intercooler and a more aggressive ecu, the turbo is the same (garret t25) but the se is tuned for more boost(around 17 psi) base is around (12 ish).
you're thinking of the 99 9-3 se hot which had about the same boost but different intercooler, more aggressive ignition timing, and a higher fuel cut

2000se + had viggen intercooler, td04, ecu
 

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Also does my Saab have TCS? I assume not? And I am getting new tires for my car this week so I was wondering what to do to do a brake stand in my Saab before getting rid of my tires.
 

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the downpipe and cat back is a great place to start. did mine a couple week ends ago. nice improvement in power, and throtle response....sounds great too. next for me is to do some handleing improvements and the intercoller. after that probably a tune.
 

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So, just to be clear...

Getting back to the OP's question: difference between the 2000 Base and the 2000 SE is the turbo, and ECU tune? Is that the consensus?

I swear the Haynes manual says the turbos are the same, but I don't have it in front of me to reference. The local wreckers just got a 2000 SE, and I want to know what parts I should take off of it :p
 

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Getting back to the OP's question: difference between the 2000 Base and the 2000 SE is the turbo, and ECU tune? Is that the consensus?

I swear the Haynes manual says the turbos are the same, but I don't have it in front of me to reference. The local wreckers just got a 2000 SE, and I want to know what parts I should take off of it :p
Anything that attaches directly to the turbo. Hoses, pipes, everything except the exhaust manifold and down pipe. If you plan on a DIY or a "send it out" tune, take the ECU as well.

The base T7 has a Garrett GT17, the SE uses a Mitsu TD04 15T. They're different enough it's easiest to grab the whole 9 yards and not having to worry about fitting the not quite right oil, air and coolant lines.
 

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So I put a TD04 from an '02 SE that I wrecked :cry: into a '00 93 with a bad turbo that I got for free. Also put in the intercooler from my SE so with that being said what kind of power figures could I expect without the more aggressive ecu?
 

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The 2000 SE has the TD04 (mine does). The Cold Air intake (K&N etc..) is not necessary. Search the forums, some posted with and with out...no real difference. Exhaust and ECU tune will get you what you are looking for. Just make sure everything else is good like suspension, crankcase vent kit, etc... There is a sticky on what the stages are and what you need for them.
 
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