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For that max price I would spend. I want the most reliable, sporty, shock/spring setup this value can get me. Any recommendations?
 

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i have the koni FSD's but i honestly want to lower my car. people say not to use fsd with lowered springs. some say its ok. im just neutral about it.
 

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koni's yellow with vogtland springs! best performance for the money! got them on my baby and I could cut lanes like butter!
koni yellow sport/strut set all 4 will run you for $698 on ebay and the vogtland springs $184, total of $882 and you still have some money to play with like HID light kit!
 

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For that max price I would spend. I want the most reliable, sporty, shock/spring setup this value can get me. Any recommendations?
Although not adjustable, I would recommend bilstein b8's for handling. As far as springs go, I can't really recommend one as all of the aftermarket springs don't have spring rates, so I would say get aero springs.
 

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Here's the proof. Can anyone give me insight? Greatly appreciated. People claim the FSD's shouldn't be dropped. But some say you can to an extent
 

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thank you. yeah i remember reading that post actually. that combo is STILL on tirerack lmao. honestly these new sway links from powergrid changed the game.
 

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Have you sorted out what kind of performance you want. I live in moderately hilly country and a turn to the left or right from the state road will take me down narrow twisty country lanes, narrow and some stretches aren't paved. If on the other hand you are doing cruising on well maintained roads your car should be set up very different than I would set my car up. You just can't blindly ask "what's the best".
 

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I live in hilly and windy roads. They are not maintained at all. Honestly I get poppy sound when I hit a bad bump. I replaced lower control arm bushing with polyethylene. I think that's how it is, but I want comfort, and a lot less body roll
 

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You say you want to lower your car and live in a hilly, bumpy and twisty area? Doesn't sound like a good place to lower a car but a good way to shed body parts and get exercise on a long walk home.
 

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I live in hilly and windy roads. They are not maintained at all. Honestly I get poppy sound when I hit a bad bump. I replaced lower control arm bushing with polyethylene. I think that's how it is, but I want comfort, and a lot less body roll
Buy a truck.

You're not going to get comfort on a lowered car (or even a stiffly damped one at stock height) on bumpy roads.

Hell, even with my freshly revamped stock suspension on my Linear; the car can feel over-damped over certain roads and bumps; and it certainly does not ride in a manner I would call overly comfortable. Sporty...yes. Comfortable? Not really over bumpy roads.
 

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That's a chunk of money right there....
Chip Minich makes these in Michigan, a retired GM engineer. 150 plus shipping is not a lot of money for an outstanding quality spherical all weather part that will outlast the car and is adjustable to boot? That Meyle crap lasts less than Six months. The OP found that. So did I.

As for the OP and slammed cars and handling, you folks are right , u need ride travel to handle. But aero springs... I wonder do you all consider this slammed ?
 

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Wish there was demand to develop springs for this platform, I would take the aero springs and send them to hyperco! Get a nice progressive spring built for ride quality/some track use. Minor drop. Those and b8's.... Now that would be great! Requesting quote I guess.
 

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Buy a truck.

You're not going to get comfort on a lowered car (or even a stiffly damped one at stock height) on bumpy roads.

Hell, even with my freshly revamped stock suspension on my Linear; the car can feel over-damped over certain roads and bumps; and it certainly does not ride in a manner I would call overly comfortable. Sporty...yes. Comfortable? Not really over bumpy roads.
ok. but my car isnt lowered. and its not comfortable at all. whatsoever. i use these FSD's and its so brutal. ughhh
 

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Wish there was demand to develop springs for this platform, I would take the aero springs and send them to hyperco! Get a nice progressive spring built for ride quality/some track use. Minor drop. Those and b8's.... Now that would be great! Requesting quote I guess.
I agree with you. Hyperco make springs for me, they are very good people to deal with and super responsive to a joint project. We have talked many times about the SAAB deal as they do get calls.

The key is to ante up 10,000 dollars to source, test develop and produce a run of rising rate high grade silicone steel wire springs. It worked for me working with Hyperco, for the GM Delta platform as I had some experience with it and so on.

For Saab I would love to do it, but the market is small and the buyers very price sensitive and appear to know what they know. That means its hard to gauge true interest before making a move. Easy to get burned. I cant spend 10k just to put decent springs on my 9-5. I would go buy a Passat or Audi wagon first. ( ugh)

for example: if a new set of SAAb springs trim to the aero or slightly below aero trim height, it wont be enough for many folks. They will point to aftermarket springs and how they "settle" "nice and low". Springs that settle lose rate, are junk and break. Include Eibach in that category, they have softer rates than stock springs, thats how they get low cheaply.

With a new rising rate high quality spring, handling balance would reduce the understeer the car has built in, but not too much. But the ride balance would be hard to get perfect the first run. That is to say without development ride and handling testing, on track and on street, and VHF rig testing and that means doing a run of springs and spending a lot of money.

If the spring needs changes you are stuck with a bunch of springs that dont work well. One set at a time is not really possible at Hyperco or any spring manufacturer.

So very difficult to take the plunge. Oh and one more thing. H&R for example sell springs for saab in eBay for 185 dollars shipped. Like right! Those are not rising rate decent springs but whatever. Our springs from Hyperco run 360 shipped. They sell very well because folks have discovered goodness is worth it. But the majority, especially on here, would look at 185/360 and say " thats a rip off how can you charge that much for springs?"

so. Takes time and money.
 
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