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Hey friends,

I've seen the "Shelby" style wheels here and there, and I'd like to get some. I think they were titled "Goldvein" or somesuch when they were new. I've also seen some on old Volkswaggens, and wondered if they're the same wheel. I don't much care about the colour as I plan on refinishing them anyway.





Call me old timey, but I like them better than my Aero's, and I've seen them before on a 900. What other makes have theese wheels come on? I'm going to start searching in junkyards and such, but I don't know what I should ask to be directed to. Old VW's and Saabs, I guess... Just want some other opinions.

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If you go on eBay and do a search for Saab wheels from time to time. After posibly a month or so a set may appear. There is a set a these Soccerball rims on right now. I have saved that search in my eBay favorites and have it emailed to me every morning.

Soccerball

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1956>1974 93, 95, 96, 97 [Sonett] SAAB 99 Minilite 8 Spoke. Looking for some better pix! Came in Silver and Yellow [S&R Catalog option]

Thanks to Larry West for the part numbers and to James Fox for the S&R info

15"x5.5", 4-hole
15"x6", 4-hole


SAAB # 22376 [came with centercap]
SAAB # 00 22 044
Hubcap # 00 23 069
Lugnut # 11973


1969>1984 99 1978>1987 900 [nut style]


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SAAB Ronal Silverspoke Sport Wheel - See the SilverVane below



15"x5.5", 4-hole
15"x6", 4-hole


SAAB # 00 24 380

1969>1984 99 1978>1987 900 [nut style]


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SAAB SilverVane by - Mike White's favorite wheel!

I *think* there were three other styles [other than the Silverspoke]:

"Silvervane Shelby Sport Wheel" 02 05 393 - Silver with machined lip
"Goldvane Shelby Sport Wheel" 02 05 401 - Gold with machined lip
"? Shelby Sport Wheel" - Black with machined lip


The Catalog calls the Shelby's "Metalux"

15"x5.5", 4-hole
15"x6", 4-hole


SAAB # 02 05 393 - Silvervane
SAAB # 02 05 401- Goldvane
SAAB # ? -Black


Weight: ~15 lbs

1969>1984 99 1978>1987 900 [nut style]



Here is a completed auction for a set of Shelby wheels

Shelby
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There's 3 similar types -

Minilites. Made by Minilite in the UK for Saab, these are the earliest version and are the original designer of that style of wheel I believe. They have an aluminium centre cap. I have a set on my 99 GL at the moment. They use the same wheelnut type as the inca wheels.
Ronal wheels made in Germany for Saab. These use the same centre cap as the inca's but the later conical wheel nuts.
Shelby's. Someone somewhere put the story of these - the original Saab wheels were so hard to find in the US that someone in Saab America commissioned Shelby to make wheels of a similar (but different enough to avoid legal action!) wheels, think they were snactioned by Saab America and sold through them?
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can you get them in 15in and to suit the later PCD?
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They were only available in 15". Don't know about the rear hadbrake PCD but if they were I'd guess they were mega-rare!
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108 PCD for rear handbrake, T8S were wearing them in 1989/90 from the factory also seen 9k's wearing some too

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The T8 Special had the 15ins minilite wheels & they are rear h/brake.
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I like the look of them, but tough to find in Australia I think.
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I'd love a black set and I've never seen them on ebay.com.au , not even on any saabs here. I'm not sure if they eben made it here, did they?
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yeh i was just thinking how good a black set with polished alloy rim would look on my saab I've never seen any here, cept 13in jobs on mini's
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Paul, John, those would be Ronal's not Shelby's. Shelby's were never available in the UK.
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I have a "1986 Acessories" magazine that apparently came with the SPG when the first owner purchased it. It lists the gold ones as "goldvein" the darker, close to black ones, as "SilverVane" and the plain ones as "Silver Spoke". I guess Silvervane is closest to what I'm looking for, but my goal is to have them refinished and painted black with the machined lip.

Anyone know if the same wheels came on VW's stock? I've seen a few around. If I have the camera the next time I see one I'll snap a shot and post it.

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i think they're pretty darned ugly... but i guess they're a little more unique than super aero's, considering that's what pretty much everyone wants on their saab... good luck with your search!
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Does anyone have any good links with info on reconditioning and painting wheels? Dunno what kind of paint one should use, or if it's better to take them somewhere, or what... I think a lot of paint would crack and flake under the tension of the lug nuts.

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Yes Richard, Ronal Silver Spoke Sports Wheels







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They're what I swapped (+ some cash ) to get my minilites Nice wheels in either design though, I actually prefer them to the inca's but I'll keep the inca's as my main wheels for the originality side of things. But the minilites are better (I think) for the track as they are slightly lighter and allow more air round the brakes.
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There's 3 similar types -

Minilites. Made by Minilite in the UK for Saab, these are the earliest version and are the original designer of that style of wheel I believe. They have an aluminium centre cap. I have a set on my 99 GL at the moment. They use the same wheelnut type as the inca wheels.
Ronal wheels made in Germany for Saab. These use the same centre cap as the inca's but the later conical wheel nuts.
Shelby's. Someone somewhere put the story of these - the original Saab wheels were so hard to find in the US that someone in Saab America commissioned Shelby to make wheels of a similar (but different enough to avoid legal action!) wheels, think they were snactioned by Saab America and sold through them?
As Nutcase said, there are 3 styles of minilite rim for Saab.

minilites were first, shelby's second and the cheap ronal knock-offs last.

From the horse's mouth (at the time a higher-up of Saab USA and eventual CEO of Saab USA, Bob Sinclair):

"David and All:
The "original" Gold Vane and Silver Vane wheels were from Carroll Shelby's small operation on Figueroa Street, suburban Los Angeles. I know, because I personally flew out to meet with Carroll and set up the deal. It's my impression that Saab (Trollhättan) contracted with Ronal for similar wheels a few years later, and I strongly suspect this was because the made in America wheels were such a success. The parts and accessories guys at the parent company weren't exactly delighted when from time to time something like this blind-sided them and "stole" what they felt was their business. :-) It is reasonable to expect that Ronal, a much larger operation, would deliver a somewhat better finish. My deal with Shelby was focused on a) overall cosmetic appearance when on the vehicle, b) strength, and c) price to the car owner; as compared with Minilites when were at that time costing Saab Cars USA, Inc. well over $100 each landed in our warehouse! My first approach was to try negotiating a much lower price in exchange for a volume commitment. Standard procedures required that I source from Trollhättan, not the manufacturer. Failing several times to achieve my goal (i.e., much lower retail prices for genuine Minilites), I finally said to hell with it...and worked out a deal with Carroll for wheels that were stronger than genuine Minilites (no small task, that), and far cheaper. I hope this explaination helps.
Bob"

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"David:
In the interest of accuracy, I said "I worked out a deal with Carroll for wheels that were stronger than genuine Minilites" (and also, in my view at least, better looking and more durable cosmetically than Minilites, since I specified that they be clear-coated). See final sentence of my earlier statement below.
I don't actually know if they are stronger than Minilites, but I do know that they passed "with flying colors" when subjected to Saab's rigorous test procedures at the Trollhättan factory. That, of course, is a bit of a story in itself. Obviously I didn't dare launch aftermarket wheels without being certain of their strength, etc., and I could hardly expect my boss Sten Wennlo to accept some third party test results when I was...er...going around the Trollhättan parts and accessories department, which considered this to be their business.
So, more or less swearing the guys in the testing unit to secrecy, I more or less smuggled a couple of pre-production Shelby wheels into the Trollhättan testing room (accompanied by a couple bottles of fine American Bourbon...in the interests of friendly relations, of course). A month or so later, test results in hand, during a Board meeting in Connecticut I announced to my Board that I was launching a new design of road wheels...and put one on the Board Room table.
There was a bit of an explosion, of course, as I full anticipated and
sort of looked forward to. I was told in no uncertain terms that I was forbidden to do any such a thing. The Saab Car Division was responsible for approval of all safety-related components, and wheels were a critical safety-related item...blah, blah, blah.
I simply smiled, and handed the Trollhättan test sheets to my boss, Mr. Sten Wennlo, CEO of the Saab Car Division. He didn't exactly look pleased. The other Board members clearly were amused. Sten quickly realized he'd "been had." And we sold thousands of Shelby Gold Vane and Silver Vane wheels over the ensuing years.
Business can be fun, if you don't forget to keep that as an objective. :-) My friend Mr. Shelby was even more amused than my Board when I related the story a few years later.
Bob"

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That's the "story" I was thinking of And I guess you're the reason they're so rare now?
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Would any of the minilite versions fit on an 88? Because I noticed that the year was just up til 1987
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nutcase:

haha! i guess i am one of the reasons they are so rare. they make frightfully good rallying rims. very strong! As we tend to go through rims whenever i see some come up for sale (for a good price) i snap them up, although i think i have enough at this point.

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the ronal versions were made in both 87- and 88+ bolt patterns. the 88+ were 6" wide versus 5.5" for the 87-.
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