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My 2001 wagon is riding 25mm low. I am going to replace the rose bushes and the big trailing arm bushings. I want to add spacers to the springs. My question is tied to the shocks.
Last summer I installed some Monroe shocks. I only use the car in the summer and probably only put about 3000 miles a year on it.
In shopping for spacers it seems they are brand specific. Like Bilstein etc. My question is: Are spacers brand specific or will any spacer work?
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They are brand-specific. The Bilstein and OEM (Sachs) spacers are different for sure. I have honestly not seen one specifically for Monroe. It's possible Monroe are the same dimensions as OEM though. I had good luck with this brand on eBay (but I put them on OEM Sachs):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Saab-9-5-RE...4AAOSw-kdXxg1B
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These are the ones I used for an 03 2.3 with Monroe's, for what it's worth. Put the height spot on.

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/33578
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This is what I ordered. I have the equipment to install this stuf with friend in his garge with a lift and presses. I'll rent a spring compresser. I'm not even sure if this all that I need or more than I need. I just ordered new springs rather than fuss with figuring out spacers. Let me know what you think.

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Monroe and Saab OEM are the same spacer.

You are wasting your money on springs they will sag.

Why do all that work and put on such cheap shocks? Monroes are at the bottom if the shock food chain!!

Skip the springs, get Koni or Bilsteins with spacers.
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The ad for the Sachs spacer says:

" Fits between the shock perch and the thin stamped spacer on bottom of the spring"

Is the shock perch flat, and the contoured/profiled ring the spring sits on is a separate part?

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The ad for the Sachs spacer says:

" Fits between the shock perch and the thin stamped spacer on bottom of the spring"

Is the shock perch flat, and the contoured/profiled ring the spring sits on is a separate part?

Thanks - Doug
The shock perch has a slight radius on the inner part.

The ring the spring sits on is a separate part and is a stamped sheet metal ring.

the face of the spacer is machined to fit both of these parts so there is proper alignment and not movement.
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Well, to answer some of you questions.
Springs and cheap shocks: the car is only used in the summer at our cabin. Sometimes less than 1000 miles a year. It’s just worth pitting much into. I just want to save the tires.
I can do the work I need done so no labor and given it’s age, 2001, how much more should I put into it.
The springs surely will outlast me or the car I’m 72.
Maybe this winter I will leave it jacked up to save the springs.
Not sure, it’s on old car, granted with only 90000 miles, but still......
Especially since I just had to put a used transmission in it which kind of bummed me out
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Well they are pretty cheap so I ordered them.
I can return the springs and the other parts I donít need.


QUOTE=Josdek;6411892]These are the ones I used for an 03 2.3 with Monroe's, for what it's worth. Put the height spot on.

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/33578[/QUOTE]
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The shock perch has a slight radius on the inner part.

The ring the spring sits on is a separate part and is a stamped sheet metal ring.

the face of the spacer is machined to fit both of these parts so there is proper alignment and not movement.
Thanks. Its a while since I looked at mine, but I recall compressing the spring to get it out of the way upward, and seeing what I thought was the radiused spring seat fixed to the strut. Do I understand that what I was seeing was in fact the separate spring seat sitting on the strut perch, looking as if it is welded to the strut tube?

The spacer collar pics all show right angle inner edges, which put me off in the past since I didn't want that resting on a radiused seat.

I guess the spring seat needs to be forced apart from the "shock perch"?

Thanks - Doug
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The shock absorber or strut has a spring perch welded onto it, and sitting on that, not attached in any way except for corrosion, is a silver metal spring seat. You should be able to get them off with a screwdriver and a couple of taps with a hammer. Regular old shaft collars don't have the radius on the inner edge, and they won't sit quite flat on the spring seat. I used a pair of those for several years with no problems, though. They work fine, they just don't sit perfectly flat.
After I replaced the springs with new ones that sagged out of the box and I needed different thicknesses of spacers, I bought a pair of fancier ones from eBay that are made just for this purpose and do have the inner edge ground down to fit on the spring seat.
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Thanks. Its a while since I looked at mine, but I recall compressing the spring to get it out of the way upward, and seeing what I thought was the radiused spring seat fixed to the strut. Do I understand that what I was seeing was in fact the separate spring seat sitting on the strut perch, looking as if it is welded to the strut tube?

The spacer collar pics all show right angle inner edges, which put me off in the past since I didn't want that resting on a radiused seat.

I guess the spring seat needs to be forced apart from the "shock perch"?

Thanks - Doug
The Sachs/oem spacers have a tapered radius to match the spring seat. Right angle edges are for Koni and Bilstein. Maybe the photos are wrong. This could be a running change in the spacers.

The spring perch is actually a friction fit on the Sachs/OEM shocks. Not welded on. You can take them off with some tapping with a hammer.
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2003 2.3 sedan, Fastenal collar (dirty now) under Monroe struts, installed a few years ago.
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Thanks Gentlemen.

I can get some in UK which are in two halves, screwed together, which makes installation rather easier. Better use Loctite.

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