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: turbo upgrade options for 03-9-3 linear


froge3000
26th October 2008, 12:09 AM
I burnt out my turbo! yay!! wahoo! wtf! well im gona be replacing it in the next week or so i would like to upgrade it so that in the near future i have less to do when getting to stage 4,5,6 does anyone know what turbo i should use? and will it work w/o reprograming the ecu? lots to learn!!!

froge3000
26th October 2008, 12:10 AM
And where i can get it?;oops:

Sirhc
27th October 2008, 12:40 PM
You might want to try looking at car-parts for a used unit. I also remember a couple of weeks ago someone on here was talking about adding on Volvo turbo as an upgrade for a maptun stage 4???? Not sure what model it comes off of.

Malko
27th October 2008, 06:00 PM
the volvo one listed by maptun for stage 4 and 5 (not 6) was a volvo TD04HL-16T

97civicexvtec
27th October 2008, 06:29 PM
TD04-14T off of a 03-05 2.0T

Frosty288
27th October 2008, 07:32 PM
Someone should check and see if the flange on the 2.0t manifold is the same as the 2.0T manifold, seeing the 2.0t uses a smaller, Garrett made turbo and tend to use odd flanges.

Discreet
29th October 2008, 02:33 PM
i would think so since the linear has a gt which should be a T2 foot plate and the HOT models have the td04's.

corbett123
5th November 2008, 07:51 AM
is the flange on the volvo TD04HL-16T the same as the TD04HL-14T?

Dach
5th November 2008, 10:01 AM
I still don't think it came off a volvo.

get one from saab for the 2.0T Aero. Or get one thats done up to a 16T version of the same turbo

97civicexvtec
5th November 2008, 05:55 PM
The only difference between the 207L and R manifolds is a small metal mount that I'm assuming supports the weight of the turbo and prevents the manifold from cracking. Either turbo will bolt up to either manifold.

lmpreza
5th November 2008, 10:57 PM
The only difference between the 207L and R manifolds is a small metal mount that I'm assuming supports the weight of the turbo and prevents the manifold from cracking. Either turbo will bolt up to either manifold.

Even if the flange does not match, you can swap exhaust housings, bothing being TD-series turboochargers, they all use the saem cartridge, and you can swap the exhaust housings. I believe the turbines should be the same size so no fitment issues there. TD04 is a 6cm wheel, IIRC. TD05 is 7cm, TD06 is 8cm... To use one of these the cartridge is still hte same and housings will fit, you would need to have the turbine hole enlarged by a machine shop.

Frosty288
5th November 2008, 11:22 PM
Even if the flange does not match, you can swap exhaust housings, bothing being TD-series turboochargers, they all use the saem cartridge, and you can swap the exhaust housings. I believe the turbines should be the same size so no fitment issues there. TD04 is a 6cm wheel, IIRC. TD05 is 7cm, TD06 is 8cm... To use one of these the cartridge is still hte same and housings will fit, you would need to have the turbine hole enlarged by a machine shop.

The flange for the Volvo turbo is not the same. I've looked into it previously.

The turbo on the 2.0t and 2.8 v6 is a Garrett turbo, not an MHI. The 2.0T is the only engine in the SS lineup that uses the MHI TD turbo, so the housings are not swappable.

Just for fun, here's my stock TD04H-14T against my GT3071R. Not a very good picture but, oh well!



http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/11/5/f_1007081921m_2955836.jpg

lmpreza
5th November 2008, 11:39 PM
The flange for the Volvo turbo is not the same. I've looked into it previously.

The turbo on the 2.0t and 2.8 v6 is a Garrett turbo, not an MHI. The 2.0T is the only engine in the SS lineup that uses the MHI TD turbo, so the housings are not swappable.

Just for fun, here's my stock TD04H-14T against my GT3071R. Not a very good picture but, oh well!



http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/11/5/f_1007081921m_2955836.jpg

The garret turbocharger must have like the same identical cartridge as a TD series turbo then, because my 2.8 V6 has a cartridge damn near identical to a TD series turbo.

Went into the garage and looked at my mom's V6's turbo. It is without a shadow of a doubt a TD series turbocharger manufactured by MHI.

Dach
6th November 2008, 04:03 AM
the 2.8t is a TD04-15t twinscroll. MHI. even the newer Linears, 2007 and beyond are MHI TD04-11T

Frosty288
6th November 2008, 10:29 AM
:o

I am shocked.

I have been under the impression the smaller turbos were the Garrett series

And the 2.8 is a 15T? hmm..learning every day

Dach
6th November 2008, 12:18 PM
the 2003-2005 linears use the Garretts. but I was given the impression that they changed to the TDO4s from 06 onwards to save on cost. apparently they are a bit "noisier" than the garretts.

97civicexvtec
9th November 2008, 08:10 PM
No turbo will work without ECU tuning btw.

bobimihi
16th July 2013, 04:21 PM
Hi all!
Own car SAAB 9-3 SS Vector, manufactured in 2003, 175 HP, petrol, turbo, VIN: YS3FF49S931006021, with 5 speed АТМ.
My mechanic put software Т8 from SAAB 9-3 SS AERO with a manual gearbox.
I immediately felt the difference, because now the car should have 210 horsepower.
There is only one problem. Idle the engine is higher, about 900-950 rpm. Whether the gear selector in position D or P or N.
Could this be due to a mechanical problem? For example, a valve? Is there a difference between Trionic8 software for cars with automatic and manual transmission?
Can anyone point me where to look for the problem?
I want to ask is there any difference in hardware between 2.0t and 2.0T?
Or is it just the software? Is there a difference as to turbochargers?
I would be grateful for any feedback and support.
Please help me!
Thanks in advance!
BOBI

Diggs
16th July 2013, 05:12 PM
Idle is at 900-950 rpm or is 900-950 higher than normal?

Yes, there is a software difference between automatic and manual. I'm surprised it hasn't been spitting codes.

2.0T has a bigger airbox, bigger turbo, bigger injectors, and different camshafts and valves in the head.

bobimihi
17th July 2013, 01:16 AM
Idle is at 900-950 rpm or is 900-950 higher than normal?

Yes, there is a software difference between automatic and manual. I'm surprised it hasn't been spitting codes.

2.0T has a bigger airbox, bigger turbo, bigger injectors, and different camshafts and valves in the head.

Thank you Diggs!
Idle is at 900-950 rpm. I ask because of another vehicle with manual transmission, the same procedure was performed, and there is no problem with the idle speed of the engine. What advice would you give? Back to the old software or looking for somewhere issue in a vacuum line? I saw that here
http://www.maptun.com/ecuGuide.php?kategori=174&produkt=1178&model=1181&listorder=40
only be done with the tuning software.
Where we have made a mistake?
In what range must be idle the engine for my model with automatic transmission?

Thanks in advance!
BOBI

Aplatitsin
3rd March 2014, 11:05 AM
i have a 05 9-3 aero 2.0T the car is tuned to a stage 1 by MPS i am planing on upgrading the turbo which turbo will be a direct bolt on that will fit?

Diggs
3rd March 2014, 02:27 PM
The same turbo you have with an upgraded compressor wheel.

Aplatitsin
3rd March 2014, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=Diggs;3281402]The same turbo you have with an upgraded compressor wheel.[/QUOTE


Thank you for the info what what upgrade should be done and do you know who does the upgrades ?

grmeyers
3rd March 2014, 07:02 PM
Need to replace my 05 Arc 20T turbo, will the Mitsubishi be a direct bolt up?

http://www.buyautoparts.com/buynow/2005/Saab/9-3/Turbocharger/40-30112_AN.html

Tmarter
3rd March 2014, 11:42 PM
Need to replace my 05 Arc 20T turbo, will the Mitsubishi be a direct bolt up?

http://www.buyautoparts.com/buynow/2005/Saab/9-3/Turbocharger/40-30112_AN.html

A turbo off any 2.0T Arc should be the same, just make sure it's off a B207R engine, and not the v6, Mitsubishi TD04L-14T

Tmarter
3rd March 2014, 11:49 PM
And there's a sticky at the top of the mods section for how to do the swap or replace the turbo, picture by picture and pretty straightforward.

grmeyers
4th March 2014, 06:33 AM
Thanks for the response. I can't seem to find the right Mod please lead me to the right link.

Diggs
4th March 2014, 09:32 AM
http://www.jzwbmwtuning.com/product-category/saab93-2-0-2003-2011-t8/

Aplatitsin
4th March 2014, 03:22 PM
oaky thank you

Wilsonnn
19th March 2014, 11:00 PM
Is the general consensus for a b207r turbo upgrade to create whp a gerrett td04 14t??? Could someone with more exp with turbos clarify or point out advantages to 14t vs 16t? Thanks.

9-3gotboostAERO
20th March 2014, 09:48 AM
Is the general consensus for a b207r turbo upgrade to create whp a gerrett td04 14t??? Could someone with more exp with turbos clarify or point out advantages to 14t vs 16t? Thanks.

The 14t is a mitsubishi turbo and is STOCK on your 06 9-3.
The 16T is an upgrade, although not a major one. More power, a flatter torque curve, and no drop off at higher rpms... but it's not gonna be a 100hp upgrade that larger turbo's will produce.
But a larger turbo has yet to be tested with 100% results yet on the 4cyl motors.

grmeyers
20th March 2014, 12:38 PM
When I talked to the parts man in Atlanta Saab dealer, he said my 05 9.3 2T had a Garrett turbo. I ordered a Mitsubishi from buyautoparts, hope it fits.

9-3gotboostAERO
20th March 2014, 12:42 PM
When I talked to the parts man in Atlanta Saab dealer, he said my 05 9.3 2T had a Garrett turbo. I ordered a Mitsubishi from buyautoparts, hope it fits.

You have an arc, so you have a mitsubishi td04l-14t. Make sure that you ordered a td04l-14t and not a td04hl-15t found on v6 models and viggens

cupdeez
20th March 2014, 01:23 PM
I wish they had a bigger turbo that would just bolt on but it seems to be a common issue with these turbos..

I have called a few places and talk with a few tuners and our turbos can't fit anything bigger then a 16T. When you use a T18 it works for a while then the turbo fails.

I looks into using a billet compressor wheel and this looks like the best option. They can fit the T16 with a billet wheel and it's like using a T18.

I called and talked with this company about doing it. They sell the T16 but don't have it listed on the webpage.

http://www.xsboostturbochargers.com/products/billet-turbocharger-compressor-wheel-mhi-15t-td04/

9-3gotboostAERO
20th March 2014, 02:39 PM
I wish they had a bigger turbo that would just bolt on but it seems to be a common issue with these turbos..

I have called a few places and talk with a few tuners and our turbos can't fit anything bigger then a 16T. When you use a T18 it works for a while then the turbo fails.

I looks into using a billet compressor wheel and this looks like the best option. They can fit the T16 with a billet wheel and it's like using a T18.

I called and talked with this company about doing it. They sell the T16 but don't have it listed on the webpage.

http://www.xsboostturbochargers.com/products/billet-turbocharger-compressor-wheel-mhi-15t-td04/

I'm gonna agree and say billet 16T is the best bet. Anything larger is too big for our L housing's. EGT's skyrocket... why the eff did saab even change from using an HL housing's is beyond me.

If you need bigger, you'll need to custom everything... and somehow pray that your map and maf don't limit you. Which they probably will

grmeyers
20th March 2014, 03:56 PM
You have an arc, so you have a mitsubishi td04l-14t. Make sure that you ordered a td04l-14t and not a td04hl-15t found on v6 models and viggens

Thanks

Diggs
20th March 2014, 04:14 PM
Thanks

Does your car say 2.0t or 2.0T on the back?

grmeyers
21st March 2014, 07:16 AM
Does your car say 2.0t or 2.0T on the back?
2.0T Thanks

cumminpwr11
15th October 2014, 02:18 PM
Hi all!
Own car SAAB 9-3 SS Vector, manufactured in 2003, 175 HP, petrol, turbo, VIN: YS3FF49S931006021, with 5 speed АТМ.
My mechanic put software Т8 from SAAB 9-3 SS AERO with a manual gearbox.
I immediately felt the difference, because now the car should have 210 horsepower.
There is only one problem. Idle the engine is higher, about 900-950 rpm. Whether the gear selector in position D or P or N.
Could this be due to a mechanical problem? For example, a valve? Is there a difference between Trionic8 software for cars with automatic and manual transmission?
Can anyone point me where to look for the problem?
I want to ask is there any difference in hardware between 2.0t and 2.0T?
Or is it just the software? Is there a difference as to turbochargers?
I would be grateful for any feedback and support.
Please help me!
Thanks in advance!
BOBI

Bobi,

Did you use a tune in your auto that was for a manual or did you actually switch and auto to a manual transmission? If you successfully did a transmission swap, please share the wealth of information.

Thanks
Chris