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Default Sludge accumalator oil pan

Saw this on another saab site in the classifieds and thought it looked like a good idea. has anyone had one of these installed?

Sludge/Debris Accumulator Oil Pan (Pat. Pending) (Posted 11/28/06)


Does your oil pan look like this? Oil pressure drops and excessive engine wear begins when carbon or foreign particles clog the oil pick-up screen. The conventional oil pan and pick-up screen must be removed and cleaned to restore proper oil pressure and prevent engine failure. In some extreme cases an engine flush is required to remove the sludge. Even after an engine flush is completed, contaminates continue to be washed from the engine walls by oil flow into the oil pick-up screen requiring another costly and time-consuming oil pan removal. Remove Sludge; Not the Oil Pan. Install the Sludge/Debris Accumulator Oil Pan and in minutes during regular oil changes, the accumulator cover can be removed, and the oil pan and pick-up screen can be inspected. Cleaning of the oil pan and oil pick-up screen is done by placing a Shop-Vac hose against the oil-pick screen. Oil remaining in the engine is pulled through the pick-up screen washing away particles and sludge leaving a cleaner environment in which to install new oil. The Sludge/Debris Accumulator Oil Pan gives you peace-of-mind that your engine is not suffering from oil starvation caused by sludge build-up. The Sludge/Debris Accumulator - Engine Sludge Insurance. Contact your local Saab specialist for information and installation or contact ABC Sales.


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Not me personally, but Chuch Andrews (Andrews of Princeton) has been using one for a while as well as doing other sludge tests and monitors. If you're not familiar with his work, check out his website andrewsofprinceton.com and look for his NINES articles. Most recent article has a photo or two I believe. They also have a method for cleaning engines and a maintenance plan for eliminating sludge.

If I were closer and needed another late model Saab, it'd surely consider buying from him. They are definitly looking out for you best interests as well as your Saab's

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Have you ever been to Andrews? It's Saab heaven. Picked up my sport chassis kit from them this summer and had them do some other minor work - it's about a 7hour drive for me.

Huge shop (must have about 24 service bays), lineup of a couple dozen used Saabs, lineup of a few dozen wrecked-for-Parts Saabs, and friendly knowledgable people. I was so tempted by the steel grey '02 Aero wagon on the lot....
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I spoke with someone a week or so back who had one and he said they weren't very expensive. He didn't say exactly how much...but he said labor would be much more than the price of the pan.


I cleaned my pan back in the spring, so, hopefully between that and the update #6 I just ordered about 5 mins ago I'll be okay. I went ahead and got the kit b/c I stripped my bleepin' drain plug last night and need a new one.
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thought I'd bring this back. has anyone tried it?? It's $350 and they emailed me the pdf with the specs. looks like it is good insurance.
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That seems a little steep...couldn't one just fabricate an access hatch, secured by bolts and a seal, a lot cheaper? Cut a hole in the pan, get a circular piece of aluminum ("al-u-nin-ium" in the UK!) and drill press the holes....
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Sorry................tried what?

Oh that thing...............erm why?

Drop the pan (s u m p) in the UK, clean it then only use fully synthetic oil changing it every 5,000 miles (plus make sure the PCV is good and up to date).

Problem solved?????
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That seems a little steep...couldn't one just fabricate an access hatch, secured by bolts and a seal, a lot cheaper? Cut a hole in the pan, get a circular piece of aluminum ("al-u-nin-ium" in the UK!) and drill press the holes....
yeah but the one they have is much nicer. I don't have a welder either.. It would be nice to be able to check it once in a while to see what's up. Sure I can drop it once, clean it and forget about it..but it would just keep buggin me. Also because you did it once it doesn't mean it won't come back.
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Also because you did it once it doesn't mean it won't come back.
Yes it does..........well unless you dont change the oil regularly, or use crap oil or have a duff PVC or all three
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Yes it does..........well unless you dont change the oil regularly, or use crap oil or have a duff PVC or all three
I doubt that. As for the PVC, there's been so many updates who knows which one actually works. Wasn't there a post where someone checked 7k miles later and there was more crud found? I don't think there is a definite fix for sludge. With the access hole, you can check it whenever just to be sure. I plan on keeping the car as long as I can.
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Ok its your money...........what do I know
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Ok its your money...........what do I know
far less than you think juding by this narrow minded post
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Correction 250 is the final price. 350 is with a 100 core charge.
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