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Thumbs down ugh! bad SAAB month

Well... this has been "black september" for me.

First my flexpipe splits in two, now my swaybar braket snaped off (the fatigue killed the two bolts holding it). I guess I really can't complain too much... it's a 12 year old car with 174K on the clock that has also lived in New York, Mass, and CT with the winter salt and sand. I might be looking for an 02 9-3SE sooner than I thought though.
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No... a... gasp... ... gee... emm... SAAB!

My driver's been incapacitated with oil lamp issues most of this month but turns out it's just the damn switch.
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No... a... gasp... ... gee... emm... SAAB!
Yeah, I know ......... but a nice 9000 with low miles is next to impossible to find these days, add to that my refusal to buy a car with an autobox while living in the US makes this next to impossible. A 9-5 Aero would be sweet but a 5-speed wagon is rare and the sedan doesn't suit my lifestyle.

Besides, after what an awful car the NG was, I figure that even GM would have learned from their mistakes and made the 9-3 right.
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I can spend several years rounding off the names of cars that were worse methods of transporting oneself than the 1994 thru 1998 Saab 900
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Now that the 92x is gone, we move on to the NG900 as the subject of ridicule? I'd take one over a C900 or a 9000 anyday, but I apparently like rubbish cars anyways, so I guess I don't count.
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Besides, after what an awful car the NG was, I figure that even GM would have learned from their mistakes and made the 9-3 right.

Sheesh! I second the sentiments by Husky. There's nothing terrible or even remotely "bad" about the ng900, its a fantastic car.
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Don't get so touchy guys!

My biggest complaint with the NG has always been the handling. I was shocked that my cousins V6 couldn't keep with my 87 Accord through the corners, and years later when I drove his Turbo I noticed that the body roll was still there. Sure you could upgrade the suspention for a few grand.... but with a car like that, why should you have to?

I like how the NG looks (the turbo and talladega especially) but it was the car which really made me wonder what the hell it was that people saw in SAABs before I bought a SAAB myself. There are much worse cars than the NG, however it is my least favorite SAAB without including both of the "X" imposters.
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Which brings me to another question here:

Who here has owned both, an NG and a 9-3? I have yet to drive a 9-3 and was wondering if it's actually better. I won't be looking for a Viggen... most likely an end of production run, off lease SE 5-speed/5 door.
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i can't answer that as i've havne't owned either, but i like the 9-3's return to the c900 design. that was the only issue i had with the NG900, that it didn't bear any resemblance to its predecessor, and i adore the c900 more than any other saab. i do love the viggen tho, behind the wheel of that beast i'll be willing to change my mind
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i can't answer that as i've havne't owned either, but i like the 9-3's return to the c900 design. that was the only issue i had with the NG900, that it didn't bear any resemblance to its predecessor, and i adore the c900 more than any other saab. i do love the viggen tho, behind the wheel of that beast i'll be willing to change my mind
Uh the only visual cue different from the NG 900 and 9-3 is the 9-3 has more chrome on the grille We must be talking about different cars here

Husky - the NG 900 was the subject of a LOT of ridicule and disdain when it first hit the streets in the fall of 1993.
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Uh the only visual cue different from the NG 900 and 9-3 is the 9-3 has more chrome on the grille We must be talking about different cars here

Husky - the NG 900 was the subject of a LOT of ridicule and disdain when it first hit the streets in the fall of 1993.
sorry didn't clarify - i was referring to the post-2003 9-3.
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Husky - the NG 900 was the subject of a LOT of ridicule and disdain when it first hit the streets in the fall of 1993.
13 years later...? I like it, It's my second favorite Yaab, next to the Sonnet II.
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I've got a '98 9-3 and i think it's got the 3rd best rear end in the world.

1) Kylie minogue

2) C900

3) 9-3 (pre 2003)

have i gone off the thread topic - sorry
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Haha, It's all good man. How about some input on how your 9-3 handles?

Husky, you are in luck! There are a ton of good second hand NGs on the market. Me, not so much since there are a lot less good 9000s.

Everytime I drive an NG I wonder about the car that could have been instead of the car that is..... They really don't handle as well as they look.
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Haha, It's all good man. How about some input on how your 9-3 handles?

Husky, you are in luck! There are a ton of good second hand NGs on the market. Me, not so much since there are a lot less good 9000s.

Everytime I drive an NG I wonder about the car that could have been instead of the car that is..... They really don't handle as well as they look.
Ehhh... I like the 9000, I jsut don't think I want one, ya know? I'd love a GM900. And I don't even really like GM. I'm more of a Ford man, as far as "Domestics" go.
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Ehhh... I like the 9000, I jsut don't think I want one, ya know? I'd love a GM900. And I don't even really like GM. I'm more of a Ford man, as far as "Domestics" go.
Given the choice, I would rather have a GM than a Ford product. The GM vehicles that my family had owned in the past held up much better than the Fords. It was a Ford Taurus which made my parents switch to Toyota.

Now it's all Toyotas and Subarus with my SAAB being the only non-Japanese exception.
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Given the choice, I would rather have a GM than a Ford product. The GM vehicles that my family had owned in the past held up much better than the Fords. It was a Ford Taurus which made my parents switch to Toyota.

Now it's all Toyotas and Subarus with my SAAB being the only non-Japanese exception.
My last vehicle, before I got into Grand Prixs... Was a 1982 Ford F150. 775,xxx on the clock when we sold it.
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My last vehicle, before I got into Grand Prixs... Was a 1982 Ford F150. 775,xxx on the clock when we sold it.
My cousin had a 1982 F250, gotta give Ford credit.... they know how to build a truck right, their cars are not quite as well build though.
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My cousin had a 1982 F250, gotta give Ford credit.... they know how to build a truck right, their cars are not quite as well build though.
Oi. I'll own a Ford Truck over anything else on the road, provided I don't have to pay for the gas.

As far as Cars go, I'll take GM for the RWD(LS Series) and just about anything pushrod, whereas I'm going with Ford for my OHC needs.
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Meh I think Saab makes a better overhead cam engine than Ford does (man I hate those oil burner 4.6's)

Sonett II? Ah yes the good old stroker... brumbambambingdingringringdingdingdingBWAAAAAdingg gdinngggdadinggbwaAAAAdingdingdid ing


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