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Old 11th October 2005
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Default Lowering Springs for 01 Aero

Thinking about having my 01 aero lowered has anyone done this if so any pictures also..pros and cons..thoughts..
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Pros:

1. Better handling
2. Looks cool
3. See #1
4. See# 2
5. Less filling
6. Tastes great

Cons:

1. Bye-bye warranty, original or extended (Hirsch upgrades excluded)
2. Possibility of tire rub (dependent upon amount of lowering and driving habits of course)
3. Koni sports not adjustable whilst on vehicle
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3. Koni sports not adjustable whilst on vehicle
I've heard this, is it just the rear shocks you can't adjust or are all 4 unadjustable?
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For sure rears - can you pop off the strut tower caps on the front under the hood?You need to get to the top of the strut to do the adjustment...
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maybe i am better off going to a 18inch wheel instead of lowering..thoughts..
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maybe i am better off going to a 18inch wheel instead of lowering..thoughts..
Dumb idea, 18 inch rims don't like potholes much. Plus the shorter sidewall will make the ride harder, but it won't really corner any better. To be honest your suspension may just be tired, you should go to a saab dealer and test drive a new aero cause that's what it's supposed to be like. Really opened my eyes to how bad my car was. Can't give you advice on a suspension as I'm in the process of choosing one myself. I'm looking at the Eibach Pro-kit, or H&R sport springs with either Bilstein or koni shocks.
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You won't get the handling improvements associated with a lower center of gravity that springs (and shocks) will give you.

While it is true that if you go with 18s and associated tires that result in a smaller overall wheel/tire combo diameter you will have effectively lowered the car, but you will likely have no sidewall if you go that route!
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They are two toatlly different things, wheels and springs, what are you trying to achieve

The 18 with the correct tyre will be the same diameter as the 17 so no better on the arch clearance

I have had the following:

Stock SE suspension - awful
Aero Roadholding kit - better but too soft
Aero shocks and Eibach springs - better but still not right

Do it right and do it once with a shock and spring package
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any complete kits avaliable..and if so from who..
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Eibach springs and shocks suspension package for the 9-5. I believe its on PFS.
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You can check out partsforsaabs.com for kits


Yeah, i thought my 2001 still handled pretty well, then i went and drove a 2004 and it was like night and day. So I too have been looking for a some dampers and springs. I've also been thinking about the bushings.
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Yeah, i thought my 2001 still handled pretty well, then i went and drove a 2004 and it was like night and day. So I too have been looking for a some dampers and springs. I've also been thinking about the bushings.
Just so you know, Saab hasn't made any major changes to the aero suspension. Your suspension is just worn out. Genuinesaab.com has the saab roadholding kit which is essentially an aero suspension and it includes springs, shocks, struts, sway bars, and bushings for only around $600. If you like the aero suspension it's the bargain of the century.
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Yeah thanks, i was thinking one thing in my head and i didn't completely write it out. I was trying to express the point that you thought i missed. In regards to the saab roadholding, it sounds like a deal, but I also thought i might try one of the other kits out there( still looking)
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How old do you have to be in the US to test drive a new saab?
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Round here its 18 and a driver's license

You guys should really start going to www.tirerack.com they have everything you need for suspension at good prices and you wont pay the shipping from the UK (partforsaabs.com is in the uk!!!)

Currently in the garage, waiting to be installed: Eibach pro-kit springs and koni sports

I didnt go for the roadholding kit because I have seen lots of aero owners upgrade their suspension...so what does that tell you about the kit? waste of $600...add a lil more and get something really impressive
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Default Bilsteins with Eibach

Not sure if this will help you out or not, but I just put Bilstein shocks and Eibach Sport springs on my 2000 Aero wagon. I also fitted the rear camber shim kit from Taliafererro saab and the front camber kit from ??? (it was just an eccentric bolt, not sure if I needed it or not).

I did the upgrade because the rear of the wagon was sagging and burning up tires quickly (due to the camber issue). After the springs went on, I had NO drop in the rear of the car (within 1mm) and the front dropped 25mm. It looks great, but under VERY aggressive cornering, braking, or large bumps, the tires rub on the inner fender on both sides up front. No big deal really, because the entire car tightened up and feels & drives much better. It is not race-car stiff, but I have a wife who drives the car and I didn't want to "upset her" by ruining her car.

Took me 4.5 hours to do the work on the floor of my garage, it was not difficult by any means, and the only special tool I needed was a spring compressor (which I didn't end up using).

Next step is new tires for me...not sure what to get, but leaning towards Pirelli PzeroNero M&S. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Rick
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can we see some pics of your car?? I have a 2000 aero wagon as well and was thinking about doing something of the sort to it...
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Did you use the Bilstein Sports or HD's? Bilstein says they have rising rate valving, I think that means it gets stiffer under compression. Does it actually work?
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Next step is new tires for me...not sure what to get, but leaning towards Pirelli PzeroNero M&S. Any thoughts on this?
Rick,
I've heard mixed reviews on the Prielli's. Alot of the posts I've read seem to speak highly of the Goodyear F1s, Continential Sports and the Kuhmo Ecsta's. Me, I've got Fulda Carat Attiro's. Their grip is great dry or wet - can't really speak to their cornering as my '01 stock suspension wallows around corners as is. Alot of it depends on the budget..
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Not sure if this will help you out or not, but I just put Bilstein shocks and Eibach Sport springs on my 2000 Aero wagon. I also fitted the rear camber shim kit from Taliafererro saab and the front camber kit from ??? (it was just an eccentric bolt, not sure if I needed it or not).

I did the upgrade because the rear of the wagon was sagging and burning up tires quickly (due to the camber issue). After the springs went on, I had NO drop in the rear of the car (within 1mm) and the front dropped 25mm. It looks great, but under VERY aggressive cornering, braking, or large bumps, the tires rub on the inner fender on both sides up front. No big deal really, because the entire car tightened up and feels & drives much better. It is not race-car stiff, but I have a wife who drives the car and I didn't want to "upset her" by ruining her car.

Took me 4.5 hours to do the work on the floor of my garage, it was not difficult by any means, and the only special tool I needed was a spring compressor (which I didn't end up using).

Next step is new tires for me...not sure what to get, but leaning towards Pirelli PzeroNero M&S. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Rick
Wait! So can I do the setup myself too? How hard was it? I dont want to pay a mechanic $250 if I can do it myself over the weekend
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