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Hi all:

I am considering a 95 CSE FPT 5-speed with 143K on it. I have read the guides and the only thing I couldn't find was how to check if the car is burning oil. Is there a clear indication (besides the ashed up rear bumper) that the car is doing this?
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Hi all:

I am considering a 95 CSE FPT 5-speed with 143K on it. I have read the guides and the only thing I couldn't find was how to check if the car is burning oil. Is there a clear indication (besides the ashed up rear bumper) that the car is doing this?
check the exhaust. make sure there's no blue smoke coming out the pipe. that means you either have massive blowby, or a shot turbo. other than that.. maybe someone else can shed some light on this situation for you.


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First, have someone start the car while you stand behind it. That'll tell you if the turbo seals might be leaking or the valve guides are going. Next, follow the car while someone else drives it and watch for the telltale smoking or puffs. If the tail pipe smokes fairly steadily when the car accelerates, then suspect the rings , if the smoke intensifies as the car picks up speed suspect the turbo seals, if it puffs periodically when the car is shifted then the valve guides are going.


Then have a wet/dry compression check done to isolate the cause. If the engine has been properly looked after it should not smoke, these engines are strong with good oil control rings. The valve guides on the older engines are a bit loose which keeps them lubricated but can lead to puffs of smoke, especially if thin oil is being used.

One exception is if the engine has been idling for a long time, say 20 minutes, it can smoke something awful for a few minutes as these engines tend to pile oil up into the clylinder head at idle and then suck it down the valve guides as soon as you begin driving. Another quirk is the older 2.0 engines tend to smoke a little if the oil is too light, say 5W 30 or even 10w30 in summer. Heavier oil or 5W 50 synthetic will generally stop this smoking.

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First, have someone start the car while you stand behind it. That'll tell you if the turbo seals might be leaking or the valve guides are going. Next, follow the car while someone else drives it and watch for the telltale smoking or puffs. If the tail pipe smokes fairly steadily when the car accelerates, then suspect the rings , if the smoke intensifies as the car picks up speed suspect the turbo seals, if it puffs periodically when the car is shifted then the valve guides are going.


Then have a wet/dry compression check done to isolate the cause. If the engine has been properly looked after it should not smoke, these engines are strong with good oil control rings. The valve guides on the older engines are a bit loose which keeps them lubricated but can lead to puffs of smoke, especially if thin oil is being used.

One exception is if the engine has been idling for a long time, say 20 minutes, it can smoke something awful for a few minutes as these engines tend to pile oil up into the clylinder head at idle and then suck it down the valve guides as soon as you begin driving. Another quirk is the older 2.0 engines tend to smoke a little if the oil is too light, say 5W 30 or even 10w30 in summer. Heavier oil or 5W 50 synthetic will generally stop this smoking.
Most interesting, thanks.
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Thank you very much guys. This is a great help and if all works out, I might be behind the wheel of another 9000 very soon.
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You can remove the rubber elbow hose before the intake manifold and check if it's oily inside. If it is, probably the compressor side turbo seals are tired or gone.
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You can remove the rubber elbow hose before the intake manifold and check if it's oily inside. If it is, probably the compressor side turbo seals are tired or gone.
Thanks Stefano

That's in the plans as well. I hope the guy doesn't freak out when I do it thought.
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