LSD for Viggen?

lukysaab · #1 28-07-04

Does anyone have experience with installing a Limited Slip Differential in a Viggen (Specifically) or a 9-3? Does anyone know if the Viggen uses the same Diff as the regular 9-3's?

I was looking at the Quaife web site and they list a LSD for Saab 9-3.

I also see that Abbott Racing lists a LSD for the 9-3 (under chassis) but when I spoke with James at Group9 he said that this wasn't as good of a unit as the Quaife (although only about $1300 (including VAT?) versus $1445 for the Quaife). Are there any others out there? I had a Torsen Posi put in my S-10 pickup and it made a huge difference on reducing wheel spin. I think this would be a great mod for the Viggen as I am wearing out my right front tire way too fast...

Back to the real point here... Does anyone know if the Viggen uses the same Diff as the regular 9-3's? And are there any other units out there that I could buy?

Thanks!

Luky

joshd2012 · #2 28-07-04

According to Yankon's site, the Abbott LSD is Quaife.

Sorry, no idea if the Viggen uses the same diff as the regular 9-3, but I'm eagger to know. This is definitely a mod I want to do.

Saabn · #3 28-07-04

Someone should contact Phantom Grip, they make many LSD conversions. They make them for the old 900 and 9000 but I am not sure about anything more recent than that.

BlinD · #4 28-07-04

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Originally Posted by Saabn

Someone should contact Phantom Grip, they make many LSD conversions. They make them for the old 900 and 9000 but I am not sure about anything more recent than that.

Those things shread kinda easy. Someone should just do a group buy on the quaife unit.

SteveL · #5 29-07-04

I'd be down for a group buy, definitely.

mike saunders · #6 29-07-04

Judging from the responses on some of the import tuning boards, I'd stay away from Phantom Grip. They use friction plates to mimic the effect of a true LSD and eventually you end up with shards of brass floating around in your tranny. If you're a racer and you do regular teardowns, then it's a cheap and effective option. If not, you're probably better off saving for a true LSD.....

SQR-900T · #7 29-07-04

Phantom grip is garbage, not a good option in my opinion. Its a bad design. Theres no real cheap way around a good helical LSD. Cheapest Ive seen is around 1050 USD, if a group buy gets it better than that Id be interested.

lukysaab · #8 29-07-04

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Originally Posted by joshd2012

According to Yankon's site, the Abbott LSD is Quaife.

Sorry, no idea if the Viggen uses the same diff as the regular 9-3, but I'm eagger to know. This is definitely a mod I want to do.

Josh - who is Yankon and what is the link to his web site?

As for a group buy... I haven't had good luck in the past. Everyone is excited about it at first, but when you ask them to cough up $1k+ they suddenly don't have it or whatever. I've got cash in hand and want it tomorrow.

I'm still digging for the answer on the fit and spoke with the Abbott US rep this morning. He said he should have an answer back for me early next week.

Thanks!

SQR-900T · #9 29-07-04

Abbott LSD is a Quaife unit.

joshd2012 · #10 29-07-04

[quote="lukysaab"]
Josh - who is Yankon and what is the link to his web site?
[quote]

http://www.kyankton.net

If you look at the mods page for the 9000, it has the LSD listed as Quaife and Abbott.

Saabn · #11 30-07-04

Obviously a locker wouldn't be as good as a full limited slip, but there is no way that it shouldn't even be considered. My two friends are both running 12's with the help of the phantom grip lockers (in street cars mind you). They have never had any shards in the tranny, and trust me they would know. If the price of the Quaife comes down I would be interested, but in my opinion that 1,000 can be put towards some other mods. Never say never

This is just my two cents from experience.

lukysaab · #12 31-07-04

I spoke with Scanwest (the Abbott US rep) today and they told me $1650 + about $150 for shipping to get the LSD unit from the UK. He also said that it was supposed to be a Quaife unit. The Viggen apparently does take a different unit than the standard 9-3, hence the additional $350 on the price.

I also spoke with Quaife USA this afternoon and they said that they had a couple of new units for Viggens on the way (being built) and should have a final price next week. Apparently Quaife USA and Quaife UK are really separate companies vs one being a distributor for the other. Q-USA makes stuff for the US market and Q-UK makes stuff for the European market and they don't sell to the other. I guess that they (Q-USA) have had a bunch of interest lately about an LSD unit for the Viggen so they had some made for the application. He also confirmed that it was a different unit than the standard 9-3. So I am going to try and get one of these if their price is reasonable. I just can't see $1800 for a LSD from the UK... That would cover a LOT of other mods (and replacement tires)...

SQR-900T · #13 31-07-04

I had an email from Quaife USA and they had one for my 1997 900. Since then I have put a 2003 tranny in by I suspect it will use the same differential as the earlier unit. The Viggen tranny is the same as the regular 9.3 so I dont see why it would take a different differential.

lukysaab · #14 01-08-04

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Originally Posted by SQR-900T

I had an email from Quaife USA and they had one for my 1997 900. Since then I have put a 2003 tranny in by I suspect it will use the same differential as the earlier unit. The Viggen tranny is the same as the regular 9.3 so I dont see why it would take a different differential.

Are you positive the Viggen uses the same tranny as a regular 9-3? I have gotten feedback from both Quaife USA and Scanwest that it is a different differential.

GenSaab · #15 01-08-04

Viggen uses the 9-5 Differential. It is not the same as regular 9-3.

SQR-900T · #16 01-08-04

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Originally Posted by GenuineSaab

Viggen uses the 9-5 Differential. It is not the same as regular 9-3.

whats in my 2003 9.3 SE tranny then?

mike saunders · #17 02-08-04

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whats in my 2003 9.3 SE tranny then?

A 9-3 differential...

The Viggen is a totally different animal.

lukysaab · #18 02-08-04

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Originally Posted by GenuineSaab

Viggen uses the 9-5 Differential. It is not the same as regular 9-3.

Nick,

So is it a "regular" 9-5 differential in the Viggen? The same as out of a 9-5 Aero with the 230/250HP 2.3t engine perhaps? Do you know if all 9-5's use the same differential? Did Saab ever offer the 9-5 with a limited slip diff? (Wondering if I can find a used "stock" unit to drop into my Viggen)

Maybe that explains why the Quaife-UK application guide lists a Differential for the "9-5 Viggen" PN QDH8J1 (POR)

. I will shoot them an email or call them tomorrow and see what the current price is for one (plus shipping).

Luky

SQR-900T · #19 02-08-04

so whats the tranny code on a viggen? I guess the difference lies in the driveshafts. The viggen has uprated driveshafts doesnt it? SO the splined shaft is larger on a Viggen/9.5 than a 9.3? Am I correct?

lukysaab · #20 02-08-04

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Originally Posted by SQR-900T

so whats the tranny code on a viggen?

Tell me where to find this and I'll go look... (unless it's under the car...)

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