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#1 ·
As I resigned to the fact that my amp1 was indeed the culprit of my audio problems (very loud beeping noise that makes it impossible to listen to any music), I decided that I rather do without some bass from the door speakers than limiting my audio enjoyment to 10 minutes per drive. (After 10 minutes, the beeping would start.)

As replacement amp1's are hard to find in New Zealand, and very expensive when you do find one, I decided to bypass the Amp1 myself.

I didn't think of this myself, I found this video online which was very helpful: http://youtu.be/yQ2Yf3K-vuQ

All you need to bypass your broken amp is a piece of vacuum tubing. In the video, the guy is using a 1/8" tube. As I couldn't get hold of that exact size, other than using a fuel line, I went for a slightly smaller size. But as long as the tubing is flexible, there is some wiggle room here anyway.

Here's a pic of the vacuum tubing I used:

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I am not a car guy, I absolutely have 2 left hands when it comes to this and I've never been as hands-on with any of my cars as I've been with my Saab 93 but it's a matter of money, I simply can't afford to run to a garage or Saab specialist and shell out $85+/hour for every little thing. Moral of the story is, I may not get all the jargon right in terms of tools etc but if I can do it - anyone can!

Tools required to perform this operation:
1 x T50 (in my case a 3/8" ratchet with extension bar and a 3/8" T50 bit)
1 x T25 (in my case I used this with my 1/4" screwdriver with a T25 bit)
1 x Phillips screwdriver
1 x piece of vacuum tubing of about an inch length
1 x small sized long-nosed pliers

Note: The amp1 is fitted under the LEFT seat of the car, regardless if you have a left or right hand drive car. In my case (RHD), it is the passenger seat. If you're not in the UK, NZ, Australia - you will find the amp under the driver seat.

Removing the amp1 from the car (reinstalling is simply the reverse order):
1. slide seat forward as far possible.
2. tilt seat forward as far as possible.
3. use the T50 to unscrew the 2 screws holding down the seat sliding rails to the floor.
4. now lift seat and rails up and forward to gain access to the am1p.
(use a second pair of hands or your shoulder to keep seat forward or wedge a solid object underneath the lifted rails.)
5. use T25 bit to unscrew single screw on the right side of the amp.
6. disconnect the cable plug from the amp by pushing a little plastic flap on top of the connector and push the connector to the left at the same time.


Now you should have an amp1 in your hands! Remove the top cover by unscrewing the 3 screws that hold it in place. All 3 screws are located on the rear side of the amp - two are on either side of the heat sink and the last screw is on top of the cable plug.

After removing the cover, you should be seeing this:

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The optic cables (input and output, to make a closed loop) are the 2 most left cables in the plug. See the 2 cables on the left side of the amp and going into that shiny plated vertical PCB? Those are your two optic fiber cables that we must "bridge" to bypass the Amp1 and create a closed loop circuit to enable all the other audio bits to function.

Now use your long nosed pliers to remove the 2 cables from their connectors underneath that shiny plated PCB. You can remove them by twisting them and they should pop-out. If you're an idiot like myself, you get frustrated and simply yank them out of their connectors with sheer force. I do not recommend you follow my bad example!

Now cut a piece of tubing, about an inch long or perhaps even smaller and gently fit both fiber optic connectors into each end of the tube. They do not need to be touching each other but they will need to be very close so that the laser beam can go from connector into the other.

You should end up with something like this:

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or:

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Refit and secure the cover, place amp1 back where you found it, connect the cable plug and turn on your car. If the bypass is working correctly, and the laser beam can pass from one connector to the other, you should have radio and you should also hear all the chimes and indicator sounds.

If your radio refuses to turn on, the loop isn't closed. You may need to cut a smaller piece of tubing and/or wiggle the fiber optic connectors closer together.

It took me 2 attempts to get this working - my initial piece of tubing was probably too long, creating too much of a gap between the two fiber optic connectors. Cutting a piece from the tubing and wiggling both connectors closer together did the trick.

All in all, it should be really straight forward to do this and you do not need to be without your amp1 for days/weeks while you pay someone $50 bucks to bypass your amp.
 
#4 ·
Not necessarily... it usually shorts out from getting wet since it is under the seat. It powers the door speakers and center speaker, and the door speakers provide the bass. Not having the door speakers working really makes the system sound bad :roll:
 
#9 ·
Thanks for the write-up on this. Seeing the simplicity of a job always inspires action...and now my Saab is significantly less of POS because of it!

BTW, try and beat this...I ended up joining the fiber optic cables with an inch of line from my wife's breast pump. $10 says she'll never notice!
 
#12 ·
Do you have them connected so that it's a fairly straight/continuous path where they join (rather than bent like a "v")? I had trouble getting them "straight" until I pushed the cables down and used the edge of the housing to brace the patch area and force a somewhat continuous path. I hope that makes even a little bit of sense.
 
#15 ·
Question

Wow, thank u very much for that beautiful guide, i having the same problem, BUT !...when i went to look under my seat i found out that i have no amp ;oops::evil::evil::evil::evil:...i just bought the car few days ago and now starting to look for a problem with the sound and the head unit...so anyway my question !

Can i bypass the amp system only with the plug of the amp that sticks out there? i really bad with electrical stuff and dont want to mess it up more, but i tought u guys could help, thank u very much;oops:;ol;;ol;;ol;
 
#16 ·
Wow, thank u very much for that beautiful guide, i having the same problem, BUT !...when i went to look under my seat i found out that i have no amp ;oops::evil::evil::evil::evil:...i just bought the car few days ago and now starting to look for a problem with the sound and the head unit...so anyway my question !

Can i bypass the amp system only with the plug of the amp that sticks out there? i really bad with electrical stuff and dont want to mess it up more, but i tought u guys could help, thank u very much;oops:;ol;;ol;;ol;
Definitely. Should solve your problem.
 
#17 ·
Hea?

lol, so what do i do with the plug?

sorry,i dont really understand...:roll:

the only thing i have in mind is to cut the tow white weirs and connect them, but that sounds strange to me...im afraid to touch it, after all if i mess it up i wont be able to start it ;oops:

like i said im very bad with electronics...and as u guys know this car is loaded with it...
 
#19 ·
lol, so what do i do with the plug?

sorry,i dont really understand...:roll:

the only thing i have in mind is to cut the tow white weirs and connect them, but that sounds strange to me...im afraid to touch it, after all if i mess it up i wont be able to start it ;oops:

like i said im very bad with electronics...and as u guys know this car is loaded with it...
you need something like this, but I dont know how you would create a loop without the original amp1

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#20 ·
I'd say peel back the optical lines and loop the fiber with an empty ink pen cartridge piece. All you need to do is get the signal from one line into the other to connect the loop. It's just a light signal.

Like the end of this where there is no ink:

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#21 · (Edited)
Thanks guys, helps alot...so what i do is just cut the two fiber optic (orange) lines at the end of the plug, and loop them, with each other right...

and one more question, if i do that, **to make sure u guys understand me** i will cut the plug fiber optic wires from the plug it self...
will i lose all the sound connection from the other wires, meaning if it does work, ill have no sound, and will have to make my own lines from the dash all over the car?
or it will not effect anything? and i could put an after market system and connect it with the original wires of the car.

Sorry for being such a doofus, just since i understood that the car will not start if the fiber optics are not connected and im really bad with electrical stuff, i want to make sure im not screwing it up.

THANK U VERY MUCH GUYS
 
#22 ·
fiber optics is a whole other beast, it's not as simple as cutting and splicing cause it passes light.

you're gonna have to remove the seat to get at the connection.

there will be 2 holes with one in/out ports. one should be lit red. do not look at the light!!

those need to be loop'd.

that pen idea might actually work. you only need like inch of something like the pen to connect the two ends. you might have to cut the white ends if using this pen method uless it fits.

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246515&page=2
 
#23 ·
Thank you very much man, that helped me alot, i will try to do what the other post suggest, its much better than what i had in mind, i will also try to find a place that sells those fiber optic wires, hopefully will get my baby with some sound...

Again thank you very much guys;ol;;ol;;ol;
 
#25 ·
hahaha, wow, yeah, well in your case its kinda easy, u have an amp, :cheesy:;ol;

me ill try to take the fiber optic line from the cd player, ill see how it goes...
and will figure it out with an aftermarket system after...

i love this car, but its really god damn complicated, every little problem cannot be just easily solved, but on the other hand, that whats makes it so fun and special, good job there man, just find a way to protect it ;ol;;ol;
 
#27 ·
AMP1 bypass

i have one thing to add on this thread and that concerns the O-bus Fiber network.
the circuit starts at the entertainment head unit and makes its way all around. BEFORE BYPASSING THE AMP1, make sure you see a red light from the plug connected to the AMP1.
the signal comes form the trunk device (OnStar Module under back shelf) and fuse box. the signal then has to go from the AMP1 to the panel under left side of Dash. the signal then has to make it back to the EHU via the cd player. if the light doesnt make it there, you will be breaking your $1000.00 AMP1 for nothing.
i learn from experience.
 
#28 ·
Battery going flat

I'm no electrician so please forgive me if my jargon is a little wrong.
I took my car to an auto electrician to diagnose a persistent issue with the battery going flat. It turns out that AMP1 is drawing current while the ignition is off, which is causing the Battery to run dry.
He also pointed out that the casing was corroded.
So my question is, by performing the bypass, will this stop AMP1 from drawing current (or reduce the load) while the ignition is off?
 
#29 ·
I'm no electrician so please forgive me if my jargon is a little wrong.
I took my car to an auto electrician to diagnose a persistent issue with the battery going flat. It turns out that AMP1 is drawing current while the ignition is off, which is causing the Battery to run dry.
He also pointed out that the casing was corroded.
So my question is, by performing the bypass, will this stop AMP1 from drawing current (or reduce the load) while the ignition is off?
Your situation is exactly why the internal bypass method in this thread is an incomplete solution. What really needs to happen is to completely remove Amp1 from the car by unplugging the harness and unbolting the amp and taking it out of the car. You then connect the two optical cables together using a MOST loopback connector like this one.

http://etadyne.com/product-mostloop.htm
 
#33 ·
AMP1 removed

Appreciate the advice and insight. AMP1 was successfully removed, and everything seems to function as it should except for the door speakers.
So what options are available, to get my door speakers to work.

With that being said, other than the door speakers, what else does AMP1 drive?
 
#34 ·
Appreciate the advice and insight. AMP1 was successfully removed, and everything seems to function as it should except for the door speakers.
So what options are available, to get my door speakers to work.

With that being said, other than the door speakers, what else does AMP1 drive?
You need to repair or replace amp1 for door speakers. It also runs the center speaker.
 
#36 ·
You don't need to remove seat to get to AMP1. Just move seat as far forward as possible and raise it up and tilt forward. Those seat bolt are tough as they go through floor pan and can get a bit corroded.
 
#38 ·
AV is right, the connection is part of the board. I had to break it to get the connection off.

U-Turn, you dont need to remove the seat to remove the connection. If i remember correctly, there is red piece on the side that that unlocks, then you just pull the amp towards to the right and the connection popped off....

This vid might help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOIm90cP-Sk