The M5 - SaabCentral Forums
*
Home Saab Pictures Saab Classifieds Saab Dealer Listings Saab Forum Saab Forum


Go Back   SaabCentral Forums > Saab Cafe > The Lounge

The Lounge For general discussions

SaabCentral.com is the premier Saab Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default The M5

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=02186323

That is pretty nasty! I was just looking at it, 7 speed manual with 500bhp. I wouldn't mind driving it. that is pretty heavy though 3900 lbs.
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 12th May 2004
sjhudon sjhudon is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2003                                                
Location: San Diego , CA 2004 - 9-3 SS
Posts: 1,746
Default Re: The M5

Quote:
Originally Posted by goalkeeper21
http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=02186323

that is pretty heavy though 3900 lbs.
Tony

Yes how is it ever going to move all that weight!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 12th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default

I think the torque could be a little bit higher, I love the styling though, the front looks so agressive. Job well done BMW!
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 12th May 2004
Willy Wonka's Avatar
Willy Wonka Willy Wonka is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: N.E.U.S.
My Saabs: 5 Red C900T16 Verts
Posts: 3,391
Default

I'm in trouble. Joining the ranks of the perceptually challenged.
It reminds me of a saturn. You don't know if it has dent proof doors? An 80k saturn, it had better do 0-60 in 4.7 secs. I can see some engineer using a bridge arch analysis program to model the roof. What's wrong with this paradyme?
When we were kids gm had this design contest for kids. The entry was a wooden model of a car of the future. Pure creativity and imagination at work.

Upon reading this I'll beat you all to the punch. "Did he say perceptually or perpetually?"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 12th May 2004
enobar enobar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003                                                
Location: Adelaide, Australia, 2008 9-3ss Aero 2.8T
My Saabs: 2003 93ss Arc 2.0t, 2008 Aero 2.8T
Posts: 215
Default

I'll take mine in steel grey.... mmmmmmm
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 12th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wonka
I'm in trouble. Joining the ranks of the perceptually challenged.
It reminds me of a saturn. You don't know if it has dent proof doors? An 80k saturn, it had better do 0-60 in 4.7 secs. I can see some engineer using a bridge arch analysis program to model the roof. What's wrong with this paradyme?
When we were kids gm had this design contest for kids. The entry was a wooden model of a car of the future. Pure creativity and imagination at work.

Upon reading this I'll beat you all to the punch. "Did he say perceptually or perpetually?"
I don't see the saturn at all. From the 3/4 picture, I see a speck of TL around the back area. I love the front spoiler though.
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 12th May 2004
Vector-SS's Avatar
Vector-SS Vector-SS is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2003                                                
Location: Beirut, Lebanon
My Saabs: 2006 9-3 Aero Vtuner Stage 0 Rev 2.0
Posts: 3,113
Garage
Default

the 4.7 seconds probably resulted for excessive wheelspin. With 500 horses, damn, thats a lot. I'm very impressed myself with the new styling; very aggresive looking
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 12th May 2004
Willy Wonka's Avatar
Willy Wonka Willy Wonka is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: N.E.U.S.
My Saabs: 5 Red C900T16 Verts
Posts: 3,391
Default

I said I was in trouble. 8)
Sorry, I do see saturn in the roof lines and the flow of the arch into the rear quarter. What's worse I see it in the front pillar posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 12th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wonka
I said I was in trouble. 8)
Sorry, I do see saturn in the roof lines and the flow of the arch into the rear quarter. What's worse I see it in the front pillar posts.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Anyone else see the TL in it? or am I just seeing things?
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 12th May 2004
Mattlach's Avatar
Mattlach Mattlach is offline
Saab on the Brain!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004                                                
Location: Medford, MA, USA (formerly Göteborg, Sweden)
My Saabs: 2009 Volvo S80 T6 AWD
Posts: 7,878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector-SS
With 500 horses, damn, thats a lot.
Horses mean nothing. Torque means everything. Obey your right foot.

err.. or something..

I seriously dont know why the bother rating peak horsepower at all. As I understand it HP isnt indicative of anything. Whats really interesting is the torque number, and how wide an rpm band this torque is available over.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 12th May 2004
Mattlach's Avatar
Mattlach Mattlach is offline
Saab on the Brain!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004                                                
Location: Medford, MA, USA (formerly Göteborg, Sweden)
My Saabs: 2009 Volvo S80 T6 AWD
Posts: 7,878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wonka
I'm in trouble. Joining the ranks of the perceptually challenged.
It reminds me of a saturn. You don't know if it has dent proof doors? An 80k saturn, it had better do 0-60 in 4.7 secs. I can see some engineer using a bridge arch analysis program to model the roof. What's wrong with this paradyme?
When we were kids gm had this design contest for kids. The entry was a wooden model of a car of the future. Pure creativity and imagination at work.

Upon reading this I'll beat you all to the punch. "Did he say perceptually or perpetually?"
meh. It looks just like the more pedestrian 5-series, but a little riced up. (In other words, like a slightly more riced up, butt ugly car)

Whatever happened to the BMW M philosophy of great performance with subtle looks?

If you ask me, the last generation 5 searies is way more aesthetically pleasing, with classic lines that are classy and subtle.

Doesnt anyone believe in tasteful restraint anymore?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12  
Old 12th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default

They way I've always thought about it, was Torque is good for stand still, it what gets the car to move. So 0-60 I think torque numbers would have more to do with how fast it goes 0-60. But HP numbers would be from 60-120, the hp will get the car moving faster, when it is moving. Does that make any sense? so you are right according to my theory about the 0-60 numbers. I think that 369 isn't that much if you are comparing it to the 500 hp. just my two cents.
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13  
Old 12th May 2004
Mattlach's Avatar
Mattlach Mattlach is offline
Saab on the Brain!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004                                                
Location: Medford, MA, USA (formerly Göteborg, Sweden)
My Saabs: 2009 Volvo S80 T6 AWD
Posts: 7,878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goalkeeper21
They way I've always thought about it, was Torque is good for stand still, it what gets the car to move. So 0-60 I think torque numbers would have more to do with how fast it goes 0-60. But HP numbers would be from 60-120, the hp will get the car moving faster, when it is moving. Does that make any sense? so you are right according to my theory about the 0-60 numbers. I think that 369 isn't that much if you are comparing it to the 500 hp. just my two cents.
Tony
Interesting.

That may explain why my Aero is realtively quick up to approx 100mph, but after that slower than expected.

The Aeros have a decent amount of torque, but horsepower is relatively low..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14  
Old 13th May 2004
Vector-SS's Avatar
Vector-SS Vector-SS is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2003                                                
Location: Beirut, Lebanon
My Saabs: 2006 9-3 Aero Vtuner Stage 0 Rev 2.0
Posts: 3,113
Garage
Default

My Vector is not too fast up to 100, but after 100 is where it shines? weird.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15  
Old 13th May 2004
goalkeeper21 goalkeeper21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003                                                
Location: Natick MA
Posts: 229
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector-SS
My Vector is not too fast up to 100, but after 100 is where it shines? weird.
Well the turbo helps with the power at high speeds. That is just my philosophy, I'm sure others here have a different one though.
Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #16  
Old 13th May 2004
Dan1 Dan1 is offline
SaabNut!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003                                                
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
My Saabs: 1986 900 8v - R.I.P.
Posts: 295
Default

now if it only wasn't so damned ugly...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #17  
Old 13th May 2004
ragtopcav's Avatar
ragtopcav ragtopcav is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003                                                
Location: Coventry, UK.
My Saabs: 9000 2.3 stg3, 9-5 waggon
Posts: 12,543
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wonka
Q. What's wrong with this paradyme?
A. It's spelt wrong [paradigm]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #18  
Old 13th May 2004
greenphotos's Avatar
greenphotos greenphotos is offline
Saab Crazy
 
Join Date: Feb 2003                                                
Location: Flying in my Vector in Basing-St'oke - 2002 9-5 Vector
Posts: 927
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ragtopcav
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wonka
Q. What's wrong with this paradyme?
A. It's spelt wrong [paradigm]
- Sorry - I'd never know how to spell it either - well caught Raggy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #19  
Old 13th May 2004
Russell Russell is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001                                                
Location: Brighton, East Sussex
My Saabs: 900 T16s Conv. NG900 Donkey
Posts: 225
Default

..lovely car, looks way to big to hussle around fast bendy roads though, the E39 is a handful already.

read somewhere that the next 2 years allocations have already been sold out - bloomin speculators up to their usual tricks again.

can't wait to see the engine in the new M6, now that should be interesting. BMW also toying with the idea of sticking the V12 into the 5 to make more of a 'luxury' M5, now that would be very weird indeed.

The next gen M3 will be a V8 - the V6's aren't potent enough anymore. BMW really are very clever at playing the power game. Take the new 530d - pulls the same torque as the current M5 369lbf. They won't make it more torquey that the M5 because that would not look good - diesel more powerful than the ubersaloon... No doubt when the mext M5 does arrive the current 530d will receive a power hike. to beat the V10 volkswagen....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #20  
Old 13th May 2004
Saba's Avatar
Saba Saba is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Aug 2003                                                
Location: Perth Ostraya 03 9³ 2.0t Arc 5M BSR Stg 1
Posts: 3,309
Default

huh! 100hp per litre, so does my Saab (actually more )
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SaabCentral Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:40 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

top of page | sitemap | email us



copyright © 2003 - 2011 saabcentral.com, All rights reserved http://www.whiter.co.uk - valid xhtml - valid css
SaabCentral is an independently run website and is not affiliated in any way to Saab Automobile AB.


Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.