Seats

*Viscouse* · #1 05-04-04, 03:23 PM

If anyone's interested, the seats will share the same structure (just different trim & foam) as the Envoy & Trailblazer.

That is all.

Mattlach · #2 05-04-04, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Viscouse

If anyone's interested, the seats will share the same structure (just different trim & foam) as the Envoy & Trailblazer.

That is all.

That is too bad. The SAAB seats are some of the best ever.

Its really funny how SAAB and Volvo make some of the ergonomically best seats for their cars of all manufacturers.

I have driven many different cars long distances, and only in SAABS and Volvos can I go for 5 hours without getting lower back pain...

I wonder what it is about Sweden and good seats? I lived there for 16 years, but I don't have a clue. Any ideas?

*Viscouse* · #3 05-04-04, 03:48 PM

GM's decision to go with an existing seat rather than a SAAB-designed seat. Cheaper, no development time.
More & more in the vehicle I would expect will got his route.

squishmann · #4 05-04-04, 07:38 PM

hopefully they won't use the same leather.

900t · #5 06-04-04, 11:09 PM

Most seats in Saabs are made by a company called Lear Industries.

Guess what company makes most of the GM seats?

finklejag · #6 06-04-04, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 900t

Most seats in Saabs are made by a company called Lear Industries.

Guess what company makes most of the GM seats?

Boeing

Mattlach · #7 07-04-04, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 900t

Most seats in Saabs are made by a company called Lear Industries.

Guess what company makes most of the GM seats?

I know Lear makes seats for a multitude of car companies.

I'm guessing, however, that they make them to the specificfation of the car-makers, cause the seats in different makes of cars all made by lear, are very different.

I wonder why Saabs and Volvos are just so much more comfortable...

SentraSR20 · #8 07-04-04, 10:51 AM

I know for a fact that Honda produces it's own seats... :wink: (been to the R&D plant in Ohio).

Well, even though the 9-7 seats are based off the Trailblazer/Envoy seats, it still looks like they added a more aggressive side bolster. The seats in the Chevy Trailblzer are flat as boards - no lateral support.

I must admit, the seats in the Volvo S60 are a dream. Comfortable but firm and they hold you in place - especially the seats in the S60R. I love the seats in my Passat, they are comfortable for long distances and the leather is of great quality, but they don't hold me in place as well as some other seats do (like the S60's).

zingZACH · #9 08-04-04, 06:26 AM

They look nearly identical to the damn chevy blazer seats..... My dad told me the vents and such are all straight from a 9-5... lol

zingZACH · #10 08-04-04, 06:34 AM

also, notice the side mirrors, steering wheel, and door panels.... all nearly identical to the 9-7X's.... along with the rear view mirror.. that is IDENTICAL to the last mm or so it looks.

zingZACH · #11 08-04-04, 06:40 AM

SentraSR20 · #12 08-04-04, 10:28 AM

The interior door panels are definitely different, but the rear view and side mirros are pretty obvious lift-offs of the current Trailblazer. The shifter is also different. Much lower in the console (or the console was raised up). Hmmm...I guess the cloth seats in the Trailblazer are different from the leather ones pictured there. The cloth ones definitely don't have any side bolstering, as far as my butt can tell! :wink:

Overall, I'd have to say it was a much less blatant re-badging effort than a lot of vehicles in the past and vehicles as of late.

How about an Acura SLX...er...I mean Isuzu Trooper?

CosmicSaab · #13 08-04-04, 02:29 PM

No you guys can't possibly tell me honstly that the 9-7 is not better than the TBlazer. And trust me, the TBlazer looks even worse in person (I have never seen a car with so much cheap plastic, and then the dealer tried to say the leather was the same quality as in the Impala. I agree that it is the same quality, but it for sure is not leather - it is "pleather," aka a grade abouve what is on my kitchen floor. Not even up to "leatherette" quality)

saabfan · #14 08-04-04, 03:04 PM

Here's a good shot of the seats - and ignition. I still don't see how you are supposed to start the car with a position like that. BTW, here's a link to Saab's Microsite on the 9-7:

http://new9-7x.saabusa.com

Doesn't seem to be working. Here's the URL:

http://new9-7x.saabusa.com/images/gallery4.html

SentraSR20 · #15 08-04-04, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by E715

No you guys can't possibly tell me honstly that the 9-7 is not better than the TBlazer. And trust me, the TBlazer looks even worse in person (I have never seen a car with so much cheap plastic, and then the dealer tried to say the leather was the same quality as in the Impala. I agree that it is the same quality, but it for sure is not leather - it is "pleather," aka a grade abouve what is on my kitchen floor. Not even up to "leatherette" quality)

The Trailblazer does lack in the quality department, very much so. However, when you're only paying $23-$24k for a 275 HP 4WD (and AWD capability as well) SUV that can tow a good amount and swallow a lot of cargo, suddenly you're making exceptions. The key for the Chevy Trailblazer variant (not the Envoy, Ascender, etc.) is how much value (in capability terms) you get for your dollar. It's not a luxury cruiser, for sure, but then again you're paying less than what you would pay for even a base 9-3SS Linear and getting a whole lot more vehicle... :wink: (Of course I realize the two are pretty much incomparable, but just to reference the value aspect of the Trailblazer).

Reagrdless, I totally missed the center console ignition. I'm sure that'll quiet a few people up... :wink: Not that it really matters, but if they could put the center ignition in the Trailblazer/9-7, why couldn't they retrofit the WRX/9-2? :-??

zingZACH · #16 08-04-04, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saabfan

Here's a good shot of the seats - and ignition. I still don't see how you are supposed to start the car with a position like that. BTW, here's a link to Saab's Microsite on the 9-7:

http://new9-7x.saabusa.com

Doesn't seem to be working. Here's the URL:

http://new9-7x.saabusa.com/images/gallery4.html

here, it didn't work because you left in the .html instead of putting in the .jpg :P

CosmicSaab · #17 08-04-04, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SentraSR20

Reagrdless, I totally missed the center console ignition. I'm sure that'll quiet a few people up... :wink: Not that it really matters, but if they could put the center ignition in the Trailblazer/9-7, why couldn't they retrofit the WRX/9-2? :-??

From what I know, Subaru did not want to do the 9-2x in the first place. I get the feeling that Saab probably asked to do a lot of things (I hear they even asked to do a version of the STI), including the 4 door version, but that Subaru said no. That and the WRX uses the steering wheel lock that is activated by the ignition in the steering column and there were just engereering things getting in the way to I would imagine.