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pretty much what title says.

not sure how much oil she needs and how often to change if using synthetic oil?
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In my opinion, the OCI (oil change interval) must be determined by conditions, not just time, nor mileage - these are factors, of course..
The capacity is four liters with the filter change, according to Haynes.
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In my opinion, the OCI (oil change interval) must be determined by conditions, not just time, nor mileage - these are factors, of course..
The capacity is four liters with the filter change, according to Haynes.
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In my '99, I used Mobil 1 (Group IV/PAO) 5W-40 & changed it every 10,000 miles. Repeated Used Oil Analyses (UOA) showed that changing only the filter at 5,000 miles really helped preserve the oil's protective properties, so that's what I did.

Now, in my '02, I use Mobil 1 10W-40 HiMi & change it every 5,000 without running any UOAs. This T7 engine incorporates ECU & PCV changes that work the oil even harder than the T5 variant did, so until I feel like running more UOAs I'll stick to this much shorter OCI.
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so no need to change it every 3k miles (5k km)? car has 100k miles on it.
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I change Mobil1 0W-40 twice a year at around 4000 - 4500 miles. AdvanceAutoParts has 5 quarts of Mobil1 + and oil filter for $29.00-$32.99 a few times a year, so it's not too expensive.

If you have a chain saw, keep the drained oil and use it as bar oil in the chain saw... Ron
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I change Mobil1 0W-40 twice a year at around 4000 - 4500 miles. AdvanceAutoParts has 5 quarts of Mobil1 + and oil filter for $29.00-$32.99 a few times a year, so it's not too expensive.

If you have a chain saw, keep the drained oil and use it as bar oil in the chain saw... Ron
I change at about 5K or six months (I don't commute, so my driving is somewhat low miles these days). Seems like good insurance even though the oil is likely still good... but I don't have to worry about shearing, etc.

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As for the chain saw Ron: I used to do that... or just buy the cheapest 30W oil I could get for bar oil. Then I had a discussion with a guy who sawed for a living for years. He'd tried all kinds of options from bar oil, to motor oil, used motor oil, etc because it was a large part of his budget. In the end he found that bar oil really did a better job and his chains and bars lasted much longer with it.

My local wood guy will be delivering my firewood in the next couple weeks. He's been in forestry for about 50 years. I'll get his opinion and add it to the mix when I talk with him.
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perfect! now onto home depot to get a chain saw!
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so no need to change it every 3k miles (5k km)? car has 100k miles on it.
Generally speaking (very generally), once every 5k miles would be a conservative OCI with any top-tier, ACEA A3/B3 rated fully synthetic oil.

However....

If this car is new to you (which it sounds like it is), then I'd definitely run Auto-Rx thru it before putting in a good Group IV/PAO synthetic oil.

And as previously noted, you've got a lot of factors to consider when deciding what OCI & oil to use.
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I thought it was still 3k miles or so... that turbo can really heat up the oil... I keep mine damn clean... 3k miles or less is my rule...
I run Mobile 1 syn. 5w-40
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I thought it was still 3k miles or so... that turbo can really heat up the oil... I keep mine damn clean... 3k miles or less is my rule...
I run Mobile 1 syn. 5w-40

You're really wasting oil.... even my 5K interval is too often... so I'm not pointing fingers, but 3K is way low for synthetic.
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My only comment with longer oil change intervals (which I think is a good suggestion for synthetic), is that with any older/higher mileage car, especially one with a turbo, is this isnt a 'set it and forget it' proposition. You must monitor your oil levels as you're likely consuming at least a small bit of oil, either through the turbo, rings, valve seals, or leaks, and if you're going for long intervals you may get quite low after a while, even if it shows no outward signs of leaks or burning.
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I personally just stick with 5000-6000 mile intervals in my n/a. Will do 5000 mile intervals with the Viggen. It's hardly more cash if its a waste, so why bother testing. Plus I enjoy doing it. Anyone else get the feeling like we're starting a monster/battle of a thread that's been done before?
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Generally speaking (very generally), once every 5k miles would be a conservative OCI with any top-tier, ACEA A3/B3 rated fully synthetic oil.
Which would be Castrol Syntec/Edge 5W-40. On sale at Canadian Tire every once in a while at around $32 per 5 litre jug.
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I have to do twice a year due to owning 2 bikes and 1 other vehicles. My cars only see about 1000-2000 miles a year. The wife's car is another story
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I personally just stick with 5000-6000 mile intervals in my n/a. ...
I'd think you could easily go 10k miles/1 yr on an n/a. Maybe longer?

My 1990 C900 n/a is on a strict 2 yr/20k mi OCI using Mobil 1. But that's only because I start to feel guilty if I leave it in any longer. (Repeated UOA "trending" over several years showed that I could go longer, but I like the easy-to-remember 2/20 interval.)
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Which would be Castrol Syntec/Edge 5W-40. On sale at Canadian Tire every once in a while at around $32 per 5 litre jug.
Yes, that's an option if you don't mind using it.
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I have to do twice a year due to owning 2 bikes and 1 other vehicles. My cars only see about 1000-2000 miles a year. ...
You change syn oil every 500-1,000 miles?!?!

Good lord... I hope you put it in your other vehicles after that, to get some actual use out of it!

Or on salads...
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I have a 2000 9-3 Base, so the lower pressure T7 motor.

When I bought mine we pulled the valve cover (it was leaking anyway) to get an indication of how clean the motor was before we took the plunge and got the pan off. The head was incredibly clean so we elected to skip the pan dropping. With that in mind I didn't run any AutoRX or Seafoam through the oil.

I change mine every 5k miles with Mobil1 0w40 and a Mann filter. It consumes maybe 1/2 of a quart between changes, but it is usually pretty dark when it comes out. I probably wouldn't stretch it much longer than that, especially on an SE or a Viggen.
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I'd think you could easily go 10k miles/1 yr on an n/a. Maybe longer?

My 1990 C900 n/a is on a strict 2 yr/20k mi OCI using Mobil 1. But that's only because I start to feel guilty if I leave it in any longer. (Repeated UOA "trending" over several years showed that I could go longer, but I like the easy-to-remember 2/20 interval.)
I'm with you, as long as the oil is long-life synthetic and no "severe service" as defined in the manual. And the service history is good.

The previous owner of my car had delayed the oil change when he decided he wasn't using the car and put it up for sale. I change the oil right away with Syntec 5W-40. When I drained it after the winter and some 10,000km or so, it still looked pretty good (compared to oil I've drained out of other cars). Now the Edge 5W-40 has been in there for 12,000km or so, and I'm torn between doing a change for winter and using up my last synthetic Esso XD-3 0W-30, or just leaving it for another 5,000 km.

Car does not notably use oil, nor does it leak oil.
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