air/fuel guage problems - SaabCentral Forums
*
Home Saab Pictures Saab Classifieds Saab Dealer Listings Saab Forum Saab Forum


Go Back   SaabCentral Forums > Saab 9-3 SportSedan, Cabrio ('04+), Combi & 9-3X, 2003-2012 > 9-3 Sedan, Cabrio ('04+)/Combi & 9-3X Performance Mods & Tuning - ALL ENGINES

9-3 Sedan, Cabrio ('04+)/Combi & 9-3X Performance Mods & Tuning - ALL ENGINES Covers GENERAL Tuning & Performance modifications that are *non-engine specific* in nature

SaabCentral.com is the premier Saab Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 24th July 2012
silversaabowner silversaabowner is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012                                                
Location: Palmyra, Virginia
My Saabs: 03 2.0T arc
Posts: 11
Default air/fuel guage problems

just installed a combo boost/airfuel guage from glowshift. boost guage and all lighting works but the air fuel wont read????? the guage is for a narrow band and just wanted to make sure thats what saabs run stock and not a wideband. I feel like a dumb a** askin but couldn't find it on any other threads.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 1st August 2012
tomipee tomipee is offline
Active Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012                                                
Location: Finland
My Saabs: Ng900 Turbo
Posts: 111
Default

Well, it is same does the narrow band work, or doesnt it, its useless. You need a wideband to get some real info.

Well, does your gauge come with lambda, or do you use your old one? Best is to have 2 lambdas on the pipe, one for the ecu on other for your gauge. Woldnt rather to do that for an narrowband. Or i maybe you steal the signal for your ecus lambda to your gauge?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 1st August 2012
grkguy89's Avatar
grkguy89 grkguy89 is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007                                                
Location: Williamsburg, VA
My Saabs: 97 900SE, JZW Stage HX35 w/m injection
Posts: 3,075
Garage
Default

box up that gauge and send it back lol
narrowband is virtually useless
the only thing it does is tell you if the O2 sensor is working.
__________________
Christos (VA saab meet pm me?) JZW Tuned Stage 7
http://www.eurocarswmbg.com/

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 1st August 2012
silversaabowner silversaabowner is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012                                                
Location: Palmyra, Virginia
My Saabs: 03 2.0T arc
Posts: 11
Default

it also tells you if its runing lean, optimal, or rich. no it doesn't tell me the exact ratio but all i need to know is if its runing the way its suppose to be and if it starts to lean out to much i can back off so i don't melt things. this is a dd not a race car. maybe later on down the road when i plan on putting real power to the wheels(600+) then i'll worry about the specifics.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 1st August 2012
kaw550 kaw550 is offline
Active Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012                                                
Location: MA
My Saabs: 2002 9-3 Convertible
Posts: 124
Default

Not exactly what you were looking for but here is a link I used on another project.
http://www.jetlink.net/~okayfine/su/airfuel.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 1st August 2012
grkguy89's Avatar
grkguy89 grkguy89 is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007                                                
Location: Williamsburg, VA
My Saabs: 97 900SE, JZW Stage HX35 w/m injection
Posts: 3,075
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silversaabowner View Post
it also tells you if its runing lean, optimal, or rich. no it doesn't tell me the exact ratio but all i need to know is if its runing the way its suppose to be and if it starts to lean out to much i can back off so i don't melt things. this is a dd not a race car. maybe later on down the road when i plan on putting real power to the wheels(600+) then i'll worry about the specifics.
hardly... it doesnt tell you if it's running the way it's supposed to
the moment you hit the throttle the gauge will show rich (in other words more rich than 14.7:1)
it wont say how much though, so you might still be too lean
and when you come off the throttle and get into over-run then the gauge will show lean

it only tells you if the O2 sensor is working.
these narrowband gauges do work great on "analog" cars. but with a "digital" car like yours, you will benefit much more off a wideband

EDIT: If you're car is not running the way it's supposed to then it will most likely though a CEL with a code.
Which further exemplifies why I think you should send it back and get your money back. Im just trying to help as I've been there. I bought a narrowband and a week later I sent it back and sourced a Wideband gauge
__________________
Christos (VA saab meet pm me?) JZW Tuned Stage 7
http://www.eurocarswmbg.com/


Last edited by grkguy89; 1st August 2012 at 05:41 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 1st August 2012
96Turbo 96Turbo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005                                                
Location: Minnezona
My Saabs: T5 Turbos
Posts: 211
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grkguy89 View Post
hardly... it doesnt tell you if it's running the way it's supposed to
the moment you hit the throttle the gauge will show rich (in other words more rich than 14.7:1)
it wont say how much though, so you might still be too lean
and when you come off the throttle and get into over-run then the gauge will show lean

it only tells you if the O2 sensor is working.
^^yep, narrow band is worthless for engine tuning. although it might impress your friends
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 1st August 2012
grkguy89's Avatar
grkguy89 grkguy89 is offline
Saab Lunatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007                                                
Location: Williamsburg, VA
My Saabs: 97 900SE, JZW Stage HX35 w/m injection
Posts: 3,075
Garage
Default

just realized this thread is in the wrong section... moved to it's proper place
__________________
Christos (VA saab meet pm me?) JZW Tuned Stage 7
http://www.eurocarswmbg.com/

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SaabCentral Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fuel Guage Problems Jman420 NG900 & OG9-3 Workshop 6 17th June 2010 09:36 AM
gas guage problems nordenk NG900 & OG9-3 Workshop 9 1st December 2007 09:48 AM
Stray Wires\No Fuel Warning Light\Fuel Guage 9004me C900 Workshop 16 12th April 2006 05:31 PM
Headlight/fuel guage problems... Kenny Kustom 9-3 Sedan, Cabrio ('04+)/Combi & 9-3X Workshop 4 6th February 2006 05:09 PM
New Fuel Pump=Inaccurate Fuel Guage? Saab6 NG900 & OG9-3 Workshop 4 24th January 2006 10:54 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

top of page | sitemap | email us



copyright © 2003 - 2011 saabcentral.com, All rights reserved http://www.whiter.co.uk - valid xhtml - valid css
SaabCentral is an independently run website and is not affiliated in any way to Saab Automobile AB.


Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.