why you should drop your pans atleast once...

[zachc]

just dropped the pan on my bros 9-5. gross. close to 100% clogged. im surprised the motor didnt completely fail. hopefully after i replace the pick up tube/o ring and run some flush thru the motor and fill her back up all will be good with the world.





yuck.

[inteller]

what kind of crap oil was he using? And does he have PCV6?

[zachc]

well...i wish i could blame this on my bro but its probably my fault as i use to own the car. althou i always used amsoil full syn euro blend oil. just i wasnt always perfect with the time intervals. never thought the motor would sludge this bad thou.

my bros had the car about 5 months and other than this problem he loves it. Im just glad nothing got messed up. I didnt see any metal in the pan which is a good sign. whew.

what do u guys usally use to clean the pan? i have it soaking in some kerosene which hopefully will take everything off.

and the car has the pcv update.

[SaabNineThree]

Its probably not your fault the oil owner must have not changed the oil often enough, did you drop it by yourself?

[zachc]

Originally Posted by SaabNineThree

Its probably not your fault the oil owner must have not changed the oil often enough, did you drop it by yourself?

yea wasnt that bad took about 2 hrs to get it off

[SaabNineThree]

Originally Posted by zachc

yea wasnt that bad took about 2 hrs to get it off

okay that is pretty damn scary ahaha il have to post my results soon enough.

[zachc]

Originally Posted by SaabNineThree

okay that is pretty damn scary ahaha il have to post my results soon enough.

the time it took me or the sludge? lol.

yea id check urs to man. the oil light was on my bros 9-5 and everything but i think we dodged a bullet i havent seen any obvious internal damage. fingers crossed.

[Brad34]

I have pulled pans on a few ....two with 200k and one with 100k, none had the updated pcv and all were clean inside, not clogged or sludged up. Interesting how some are so bad and others no problems...I never ran synthetic oil.

[zachc]

i know right. i never woulda thought the motor would be so sludged. the car only have 115K.

[Paul in NM]

Originally Posted by Brad34

I have pulled pans on a few ....two with 200k and one with 100k, none had the updated pcv and all were clean inside, not clogged or sludged up. Interesting how some are so bad and others no problems...I never ran synthetic oil.

Me as well. Pulled mine at 85K and nada. And the car was without the #6 upgrade to 70K. Some varnish but not a spec on the screen. Car's history was sketchy - a lot of gas station oil changes. Luck of the draw I suppose.

[SaabNineThree]

i will be pulling mine and then later my friends 9-3 when spring hits already got some car ramps is that enough zack?

[inteller]

i pulled mine and wish I never had cause it had apparenly been dropped before and the last monkey stripped two bolts in the block.

[zachc]

Originally Posted by SaabNineThree

i will be pulling mine and then later my friends 9-3 when spring hits already got some car ramps is that enough zack?

yea thats all you need.

Originally Posted by inteller

i pulled mine and wish I never had cause it had apparenly been dropped before and the last monkey stripped two bolts in the block.

bummer, get out the tap and die set lol

[firehawk618]

Very strange how this sludge clogging the tube is very hit or miss.

My 01 looked like it wasn't too well maintained by it's previous owner. I got it with 16x,xxx miles. Dropped the pan and it looked great inside. It didn't have pcv6 either.....

[robbie1902]

Holy **** thats really bad...i just dropped my pan an my pickup tube had just a few flakes in it and im replacing it...you are very lucky!

[Genespleen]

Some folks have had very good results using brake cleaner to clean the pan. I used a can of super-duper oven cleaner and a lot of elbow grease. Setting the pan out in the sun so it could warm up helped. (Watch the fumes!)

[Saaber95er]

Don't use a ramp; because you need to get access to the bolts behind the right wheel. I did my 95 on a ramp because I had to do work on the exhaust so I went ahead and did the sump; wish I had jacked it up it masks maneuvering the pan easier. Especially on the 93 if you use a ramp good luck getting the pan out; on the 93 you need to remove a motor mount, loosen another (need to be able to move the engine up and down), remover the oil filter housing and remove 3 bolts on the A frame. Just did my 93 this week; "CHECK OUT WHAT I FOUND" on a car with 62K miles. http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=223897

Yes I agree you should drop the sump at least to have a look see.

Originally Posted by SaabNineThree

i will be pulling mine and then later my friends 9-3 when spring hits already got some car ramps is that enough zack?

[zachc]

i cannot speak for pullin the pan on a 9-3 but it was easy doin it on the 9-5 with ramps. just gotta be on your back for abit. no biggie.

thanks for the brake clean tip. will try that and take a scraper to the pan to start knockin the solidified pieces off.

the screen is looking ALOT better. the kerosene is working wonders than i just go at it with a small pick and scrap it all out.

[The Auto Whisperer]

Originally Posted by SaabNineThree

i will be pulling mine and then later my friends 9-3 when spring hits already got some car ramps is that enough zack?

Hey SaabNineThree I wouldn't recommend car ramps, or if you do use them, put jackstands under the car too. I've seen ramps fail twice with no warning. Thankfully, both times, no one was under them. Once was with my first car, a 66 Mustang. It had been on the ramps for a week while I was rebuilding the engine. So, it had no engine or tranny in it. I was at the back of the garage, heard this horrible squeaking, tearing noise and the car just crashed down on one side. Scary as sh*t!!

[SaabNineThree]

Originally Posted by The Auto Whisperer

Hey SaabNineThree I wouldn't recommend car ramps, or if you do use them, put jackstands under the car too. I've seen ramps fail twice with no warning. Thankfully, both times, no one was under them. Once was with my first car, a 66 Mustang. It had been on the ramps for a week while I was rebuilding the engine. So, it had no engine or tranny in it. I was at the back of the garage, heard this horrible squeaking, tearing noise and the car just crashed down on one side. Scary as sh*t!!

Okay i will be putting support jacks under on each side also thanks guys!!