15 HP extra

[kev999]

hi every one

i purchased a 15 HP chip,easy to fit but it says that if pinking occurs use super unleaded,but the owners manual says only use regular unleaded.
question 1 are these chips any good
2 if so can i run the car on super unleaded

regards kev

[mike saunders]

That money would have been better spent on beer.

[themans2sexy4u]

Agreed

[min-va]

Originally Posted by mike saunders

That money would have been better spent on beer.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jwwells]

Just to be clear, the "chips" you speak of are a total scam and the only HP increases are totally psychological

[Jssaab]

And tubo cars require super at least... anyway and NEVER USE ANYTHING TAHT WILL MAKE YOUR CAR RUN POORLY< IT WILL KILL YOUR ENIGNE ( pinking "pinging" i fear that's bad and will blow your engine..

Besides 15 Hp is nothing I think you can get that with premium regardless and not worth destrying your engine

[SaabScott]

Originally Posted by Jssaab

And tubo cars require super at least... anyway and NEVER USE ANYTHING TAHT WILL MAKE YOUR CAR RUN POORLY< IT WILL KILL YOUR ENIGNE ( pinking "pinging" i fear that's bad and will blow your engine..

Besides 15 Hp is nothing I think you can get that with premium regardless and not worth destrying your engine

"tubo cars require super at least" is not a true statement.

Check the Saab owners manual ... the highest octane is prefered, but not required. Granted, with lower octane you get less power and your fuel economy drops, but you can do it without hurting the engine. The Saab Trionic system is smart enough to make adjustments to the engine, timing, boost depending on the grade of fuel.

Now, having said all of that, I have found that you get the extra cost of higher grade fuel back in economy, so in that case, it makes no sense to use anything less than the best.

[Rarelibra]

Originally Posted by SaabScott

"tubo cars require super at least" is not a true statement.

Check the Saab owners manual ... the highest octane is prefered, but not required. Granted, with lower octane you get less power and your fuel economy drops, but you can do it without hurting the engine. The Saab Trionic system is smart enough to make adjustments to the engine, timing, boost depending on the grade of fuel.

Now, having said all of that, I have found that you get the extra cost of higher grade fuel back in economy, so in that case, it makes no sense to use anything less than the best.

If you really look at it, it is usually $.10 difference between premium and mid-grade, and $.10 difference between mid and low-grade. Even if you put in low grade to "save" the $.20, average 16 gallons, it is only "saving" roughly $3 or $4 on a fill. With the potential fuel economy loss and possible trouble (like pinging), it would cost more to put in an octane boost, etc. than to just bone up and buy premium all the time.

I agree with Jssaab on this one - a turbocharged car, which you want to be at best performance, should run on nothing but premium. Otherwise, why are you driving the car? It's like people who buy a million dollar house but say they cannot afford (or don't want to pay) the $500 a month to heat it.

[Jssaab]

Originally Posted by SaabScott

"tubo cars require super at least" is not a true statement.

Check the Saab owners manual ... the highest octane is prefered, but not required. Granted, with lower octane you get less power and your fuel economy drops, but you can do it without hurting the engine. The Saab Trionic system is smart enough to make adjustments to the engine, timing, boost depending on the grade of fuel.

Now, having said all of that, I have found that you get the extra cost of higher grade fuel back in economy, so in that case, it makes no sense to use anything less than the best.

Sure you can put garbage fuel in but you need to be dang sure that the rest of the car is up to snuff, if you have a bad 02 sensor or faulty amm and put in the low grade or cheaper gas the tollerances of T7 to adjust get limited and you can get knock.. might as well be sure just in case and i have seen very few T7 cars with eveything perfectly spec'd...

[SaabScott]

Originally Posted by Rarelibra

If you really look at it, it is usually $.10 difference between premium and mid-grade, and $.10 difference between mid and low-grade. Even if you put in low grade to "save" the $.20, average 16 gallons, it is only "saving" roughly $3 or $4 on a fill. With the potential fuel economy loss and possible trouble (like pinging), it would cost more to put in an octane boost, etc. than to just bone up and buy premium all the time.

I agree with Jssaab on this one - a turbocharged car, which you want to be at best performance, should run on nothing but premium. Otherwise, why are you driving the car? It's like people who buy a million dollar house but say they cannot afford (or don't want to pay) the $500 a month to heat it.

You didn't read what I said.

I said the car was designed and can run on whatever you want to use.

I also said, with the increase in fuel economy you get from the higher octane, it pays for itself.

The challenge becomes only when gas gets cheaper, the ratio changes. As long as gas it high (like it is now) it makes sense.

Of course, I also said, I only use premium fuel, period. One of the reasons is safety/power. With the best fuel, I get the best performance ... when I need it, I have it.

[SaabNineThree]

lol post a pic of this chip plzz

[Sparky's 9-5 3t]

Part of me feels bad for laughing so hard and the other part of me can't believe people really do buy these things.

Kev999, PLEASE do the research before doing anything .....else.... to your car. You'll save yourself a lot of pain and money.

and btw, I vote beer.

[Rarelibra]

Originally Posted by Sparky's 9-5 3t

Part of me feels bad for laughing so hard and the other part of me can't believe people really do buy these things.

Kev999, PLEASE do the research before doing anything .....else.... to your car. You'll save yourself a lot of pain and money.

and btw, I vote beer.

Hey Kev999 - there is an informercial I saw about a turbo spool you can install in your tail pipe. It adds some 10 HP with little effort

(snicker)