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Old 6th September 2011
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Default Radiator fan help needed... 01 9-3 2L

I got a foreign object in my fan shroud and it ended up breaking the fan blade and putting a hole in the radiator. I found a used fan and radiator which I purchased from an individual far away in the dark of the night.

When I started working on putting the 9-3 back together I find that the used fan that I purchased had a wiring problem and the wiring to the motor is fried.

So I have a good motor with a bad fan on it and a bad motor with a good fan on it.

See pictures below of the bad fan with the good motor and how the fan is attached (apparently) to the shaft of the motor. Question is... how to take the fan blades off the motor for a swap. A few taps on the double slotted deal around the shaft did not show any result and before I did damage I was hopeing someone on here could give me some guidence.
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Not to thread jack, but does anyone know of the CFM rating of the OEM (especially on high)? While working on the IC/intake system, I removed the fan and it really is a pain to take in and out, a low profile one would definitely free up some room in there (would be nice to not even have to remove it, or at least not have to work around power steering lines, etc).
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I got a foreign object in my fan shroud and it ended up breaking the fan blade and putting a hole in the radiator. I found a used fan and radiator which I purchased from an individual far away in the dark of the night.

When I started working on putting the 9-3 back together I find that the used fan that I purchased had a wiring problem and the wiring to the motor is fried.

So I have a good motor with a bad fan on it and a bad motor with a good fan on it.

See pictures below of the bad fan with the good motor and how the fan is attached (apparently) to the shaft of the motor. Question is... how to take the fan blades off the motor for a swap. A few taps on the double slotted deal around the shaft did not show any result and before I did damage I was hopeing someone on here could give me some guidence.
it might be reverse threaded so the fan does not fly off. but I am unsure.
it may have allen screw on side. I checked the WIS and it did not say
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Anybody ever take this fan off the motor? I really need some guidence. I am in the process of putting the car back together and at this point don't have a fan to put in. I may assemble and get the car on the road without a fan... it has cooled off a lot in the past week. Not ideal so I need any ideas that can be provided.
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I just threw one out about a month ago...I would have just given you the fan as the resistor is what went bad.
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Anybody ever take this fan off the motor? I really need some guidence. I am in the process of putting the car back together and at this point don't have a fan to put in. I may assemble and get the car on the road without a fan... it has cooled off a lot in the past week. Not ideal so I need any ideas that can be provided.
sorry I asked my indy when I saw one sitting around yesterday and he said they did not come off. however since they were assembled I can only think that they can be disassembled, but any fan is better than none (anything that fits)
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Think the quickest option is to simply try and carve the opposite blade on the damaged fan to match. Using a template of the broken blade, trim it's opposite to match. That would keep the balance (mostly) intact and get the fan back to cooling the radiator. -- not really an ideal option, but would get the car back on the road.

The better answer is to get destructive on the broken blade and carefully cut it away from the motor. That should reveal it's attachment methodology and get you started on removing the intact blade from the duff motor.

That center white "star" along with the slotted center of the motor shaft both suggest there should be a way to disassemble the thing. Almost looks like that star is a lock of some kind to prevent the blade from spinning off the motor.
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Do know the direction of the fan blades...
This is one clever design, its impossible for the fan itself to loosen...It was assembled, it had to be.... so I think it can be disassembled.
That special lock device may have to be destroyed...
Use the special Saab tool which may be listed in the WIS, if not, make one ( a special spanner ).
This is a lot of trouble, most would just replace the entire assembly with a used one ,of course.
And its best to "rebuild" the resistor unit - this is what normally goes south..
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So the car is on the road again with a good rediator but without a fan. I drove about 50 miles after completing the assembly and the temperature stayed right where it usually is in the mid range - how ever it was a coolish mid 60s today. It should get me by for a few days until I figure out the fan deal or find another.

I may try something like the suggestion by win_k ... rebuild the broken blade and rebalance. TBD. I would prefer to figure out the removal of the fan from the shaft of the motor and remount the good one but... I need to fins some more time to futz around with it.

Thanks for the inputs and if you have a chance to ask around I am still looking of additional insight to this problem.
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Back to the project after a brief interlude...

Anybody out there know how to take the fan off the motor shaft?
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