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Ok, so our cars are sort of overweight. My particular car has a published weight of 2990, which IMHO is about 300+ lbs more than it should be. Yeah, I know its a 'premium' car with lots of fancy stuff.

So, obvious removal items aside (like the 32lb spare tire/ jack) what non-critical items can be removed without compromising the 'look', or safety of the car? I dont care if it gets a little noisier.

Fog lights are one example of what Im talking about. The ones I have are worthless from a functional standpoint. 3-4lbs.

Headlamp washers are silly. I already removed mine and sold them on Ebay (made $50) and they weighed 4lbs.

Dont think I can take out the AC. For one it works, two I live in the Midwest and the defrost feature is key in the winter.

Lightweight battery is a 20lb savings.

Now Im up to 20+32+4+4=60lbs in just those small things.

I dont have power seats, but I do have a sunroof (superflourous item I dont use, and its going to start leaking sometime soon anyway). Whats the weight on that item? I dont mind welding in some metal and re-painting the roof.

Its all the little junk that adds up. On a previous car I had (MINI Cooper S) I removed all sorts of useless crap and reduced it 200lbs and it still looked the same inside and out.

And please dont reply if you dont have anything constructive to add to the conversation. I dont care that I dont have a spare, I pay $100+/yr for AAA, I can get a tow if I have a flat. No, this isnt a track car, othewise I would just strip the hell out of it.
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You mention nothing about why you want to save weight, so why?
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The most effective 'horsepower' increase is through the reduction of weight. Plus, handling, fuel econ, etc... a lighter car is just more efficient.
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Since you pulled the headlight wipers, pull the pump and reservoir. A gallon of wiper fluid has to weigh 7 lbs by itself. Did you also pull the rear wiper? That's another few pounds... Ron
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Good one. In 2 years I have rarely used the rear wiper. Plus its ugly.

Power antenna too. I dont even listen to radio, I have a dedicated iPOD for my car, and if I wanted to listen to radio, my iPOD has a tuner
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I actually use my rear wiper pretty often, couldn't imagine getting rid of it. The headlight wipers on other hand...

The pad or whatever it should be called underneath the hood, that'd be something easy to ditch. Obviously this is fairly expensive, but some light weight wheels would help, too. Not sure what else you could pull, especially if you like your A/C.
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take out stereo, speakers and wires. change glass to lexan, race rims/tires. gut interior and sound dending material. only need one race seat, if you have a sun roof remove that whole assembly and use lexan, maybe go on a diet. drive it with less gas in tank. 8lbs a gallon. swap power seats for manual seats. make it remote control. vaccum it. thats all i got
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Yeah, that pad probably is 2lb.

Already have some lightweight, but practical tires and wheels. Wish I had written down the weight savings. It was pretty significant, plus it was unsprung weight.

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take out stereo, speakers and wires. change glass to lexan, race rims/tires. gut interior and sound dending material. only need one race seat,
Mentioned before it has to be a daily ride and cant look significantly different. If it was a track car I would gut it.

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if you have a sun roof remove that whole assembly and use lexan,
Im seriously looking at that. The sunroof assy from my MINI weighed almost 50lbs. Its easy to weld in some metal or make a permanent lexan moon roof that doesnt open.

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maybe go on a diet.
HA! I might waste away to nothing then... already @ 155
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BTW, someone PM'ed me (wont say who because it doesnt matter) but they had concerns I would hurt the value of my car. While it is in immaculate condition and only has 58,000 miles on it, the book value is $2600. Is taking off the rear wiper and fog lights going to appreciably hurt the value? No.
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Just put all the stuff you take off in a box and then put it in the trunk when you sell the car... Ron
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So was looking at the removal of the antenna...

$50 for a plastic plug?!?

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Just put all the stuff you take off in a box and then put it in the trunk when you sell the car... Ron
Im actually going to sell all the good working stuff on ebay. I plan to keep the car until it falls apart, and with 58,000 miles on it that will be a long time, at which time it will be worth nothing
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ya i agree on the plastic plug for 50+ waste of money. if you would weld in the sunroof just weld the hole from antena. or make your own plug
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ya i agree on the plastic plug for 50+ waste of money. if you would weld in the sunroof just weld the hole from antena. or make your own plug
any excuse to use my MIG welder is wecome
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Two door or four door? If it's four door, remove the rear power window motors. That's at least 20 lbs. Power locks can go too. Truck lining material if it's not a hatchback. You could pull the carpets and paint the floors, although that might leave a lot of stuff exposed you don't want showing.

Meanwhile, I think you're nuts... the minimal savings aren't going to make an appreciable difference and you'll have much less valuable and less enjoyable vehicle when done. Just run your tank on 1/4 all the time if you care that much about weight. Put your time into the ecuproject and building an "economy tune" if you want to save gas.

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2990 lbs sure isn't overweight. A 2011 Saab 9-3 weight 3210 lbs. Be happy.
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I can't see owning a Saab and removing all the items that kind of make it Saab (like the headlight wipers)
Unless of course you're going full blown weight reduction, seats, windows and all.

Though I will admit, she is a bit of fatty.
AWD Matrix weighs less than the Saab.

I'm sure Turbo, oil cooler, intercooler, and all the accompanying lines add a bit of weight.
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I can't see owning a Saab and removing all the items that kind of make it Saab (like the headlight wipers)
Unless of course you're going full blown weight reduction, seats, windows and all.

Though I will admit, she is a bit of fatty.
AWD Matrix weighs less than the Saab.

I'm sure Turbo, oil cooler, intercooler, and all the accompanying lines add a bit of weight.
Not to mention, the sheet metal is about twice as thick as the Matrix, and there's significantly more structure underneath. There's a reason people walk away from major Saab accidents.
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Not to mention, the sheet metal is about twice as thick as the Matrix, and there's significantly more structure underneath. There's a reason people walk away from major Saab accidents.
This is good to know, now I feel even safer in it
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I don't see the point if this is a street car, and this is coming from a guy that has another car that was stripped for lightness due to racing/auto-x. Unless you remove all the seats, except the drivers, replace with fiber glass, strip out the supports on the front hood, rear trunk, panels on the doors, stereo, etc... then removing just the wiper crap is chump change. When I was really into this, drivers would literally try to drop weight before an auto-x which to me was really a joke. But if you really are into this post the weight of you and the car on a truck scale before and after, then let us know how much gas you are saving and how much faster your car is.
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