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Old 13-11-10
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I recently purchased a 2008 SAAB 9-5 Aero that only came with one remote key. I want to get some other keys made for my car, but after digging around on this site, it looks like my option from the dealer is $250 for a key and $58 for programming. I live in the Seattle area and I would like to know my options for getting a key made and also have some questions answered regarding this matter. I am trying to find the lowest cost alternative to just going to the stealership and having keys ordered and programmed. Any help is appreciated.

1) Can a local locksmith that can make high security transponder keys make a car for this vehicle? I called several, one thought he might be able to, and the other flat out said no. Some on this website have claimed to have gotten keys made at a locksmith, so I want to find out if that is really an option.

2) I have also read that I should get a cut key without the remote guts in it from the dealer. I am not sure about the price on this, but I am investigating. I should then buy a full key from Ebay (prices seem to be $60-$90) and swap the remote guts with the key from the dealer and have the dealer reprogram it. The question is whether a key that is listed for 2001-2007 models will work or not. I thought that the keys changed slightly in 2003. Are the electronics the same for all model years, or did just the metal key part change?

3) If I purchase this key: http://www.autotransponder.com/2008_..._entry_remotes
and have it cut at a locksmith, then have it programmed at a dealer will that work?

4) Can an independent service mechanic reprogram keys to your car? I have read on this website that some people claim that they can get this service done for free, and want to know if that is even possible.

5) Has anyone used this website when all of the keys are lost? http://www.lostsaabkeys.com/ It looks like a much lower cost alternative when you have no other choice.
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Old 14-11-10
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I'm also curious about this. I'm leaning towards just having a bare key cut and leaving the electronics out entirely, as this will not be my primary vehicle.

Frank, were you able to get a price for a bare key? Can a regular locksmith do it?
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Old 14-11-10
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I spoke with the dealership yesterday. They further informed me that full keys are back ordered till' the end of December. What a crock. Now it is $305 to buy a key and I have to wait with my one key till next year? Boy that's great service. The dealership also informed me that I could by a key for the 1999 model 9-5's and they could program that one. Cost for that key is $100, but it has no remote function. I just wonder if this dealership knows what it is talking about, because according to the Key pdf that is floating around, Saab keys changed in 2003 and they are not backwards compatible. The dealership also did not know anything about just ordering the cut key with the transponder in it as a bare unit without the remote electronics. Can someone with more knowledge on this subject please chime in and clue us in? Thanks JFP
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This is a great guide -- I lost a key and followed exactly this. You can have the dealership cut you a key without the electronic guts using the Vin # (they can look up the key code if you dont have it using the VIN). Bought a used key off flea bay for 5 bucks. Keys cut for 35 $ from the dealer, friendly indy programmed it for free...
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The process, I think, goes like this:

Purchase a used remote key from fleabay. Take out the remote, toss the key.
Purchase a remote key (w/o remote) cut to your VIN from the stealer.
Place used remote in new key, have stealer program your new key/remote to your car.
Total cost should be less than $100.
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I have seen that PDF before. All of the keys on Ebay these days are running $35-$125, with most in the $60 range. Cost to reprogram at the dealer is $58. So most cases cost is over $100. The question is whether these Ebay keys are of good quality, and will they work with my 2008 9-5. The keys on Ebay are listed to work with all cars 2001-2007. The PDF says that the keys changed after 2003. Is that just the key shank that changed, the transponder that changed, or the remote that changed. Which pieces are compatible with 2008's? I understand that I can get a key from the dealer without the remote guts. Does this also work as a valet key, where you can do everything but use the remote functions (eg. will the key open the doors and start the car)?
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Get a USED key with remote have a new blank ( without remote) cut and programmed for your car and a GOOD dealer wil do this for free for the cost of a new cut key, call around
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Get a USED key with remote have a new blank ( without remote) cut and programmed for your car and a GOOD dealer wil do this for free for the cost of a new cut key, call around
So, is the actual transponder portion of the key contained in the same package as the remote, or is it in the black plastic surrounding portion that is married to the metal key? If it is in the black plastic, is it possible to use this key without the remote to start your car once properly programmed? This would allow you to have an extra key to keep in a safe place as a valet key that wouldn't have the remote functions. Thus you avoid the added cost of having to have the remote electronics.
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Get a USED key with remote have a new blank ( without remote) cut and programmed for your car and a GOOD dealer wil do this for free for the cost of a new cut key, call around
So, is the actual transponder portion of the key contained in the same package as the remote, or is it in the black plastic surrounding portion that is married to the metal key? If it is in the black plastic, is it possible to use this key without the remote to start your car once properly programmed? This would allow you to have an extra key to keep in a safe place as a valet key that wouldn't have the remote functions. Thus you avoid the added cost of having to have the remote electronics.
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Get a USED key with remote have a new blank ( without remote) cut and programmed for your car and a GOOD dealer wil do this for free for the cost of a new cut key, call around
Does the blank without remote need to be a blank with the remote housing or is there some way to pull the key out of the shank and put it in the used remote housing?
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Does the blank without remote need to be a blank with the remote housing or is there some way to pull the key out of the shank and put it in the used remote housing?
i dont see anyway the shaft or blade can be removed it looks like its all one piece of metal thats coated with plastic
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i dont see anyway the shaft or blade can be removed it looks like its all one piece of metal thats coated with plastic

so does the housing for the transponder slip up and around the blade? I'm looking at my key and it looks like that housing is all one piece up to the loop.
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so does the housing for the transponder slip up and around the blade? I'm looking at my key and it looks like that housing is all one piece up to the loop.
the back cover comes off and the transponder "falls out" the back then the rest is one piece

when i ordered a new key from saab thats how it came, with out the buttons or back over, just a skeleton and cut blade, i sourced my own electronics and still have it marry it

i have an extra transponder im selling see my ad in FS if you want it
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the back cover comes off and the transponder "falls out" the back then the rest is one piece

when i ordered a new key from saab thats how it came, with out the buttons or back over, just a skeleton and cut blade, i sourced my own electronics and still have it marry it

i have an extra transponder im selling see my ad in FS if you want it

so basically I need something like this and have it cut to my key code:
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Anything custom made for our cars by Saab, such as keys cut to fit existing locks or ignition lock cylinders custom assembled to match existing keys, will show as "Back Ordered"on the parts ordering system since they are not shelf items.

Expect a 4 to 6 week delivery for such parts and don't worry too much.
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i dont see anyway the shaft or blade can be removed it looks like its all one piece of metal thats coated with plastic
I have purchased a few "uncut" keys on ebay where the user took a used key, took out the blade (probably with a dremel or something like that) and then glued in a new blade, put the electronics back in and sold it.

I took the blank to the Saab dealer, they cut it (although I would bet that a reasonably good locksmith could do it as well) so that it would turn the ignition and then they programmed the transponder as well as the remote to work with my car. I think they charged me $50 to do that.

I still have one of those keys and use it in my 03 Aero. The other ones I sold with my first '99 when I got the 03 and that car had an unfortunate rendezvous with a telephone pole about a year after I sold it to one of my co-workers' son.


So yes, you can change the blade. I was thinking for a while that I'd do this with my son's 99: Take the existing key blade out of the non-remote key, put it into a remote key, get the dealer to program it. (i.e. no key cutting necessary) In fact, thought of this again yseterday while we were taking the right front hub off of a junker in the pick-n-pull, but the keys weren't in the car.
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I took the blank to the Saab dealer, they cut it (although I would bet that a reasonably good locksmith could do it as well) so that it would turn the ignition and then they programmed the transponder as well as the remote to work with my car. I think they charged me $50 to do that.


So yes, you can change the blade. I was thinking for a while that I'd do this with my son's 99: Take the existing key blade out of the non-remote key, put it into a remote key, get the dealer to program it. (i.e. no key cutting necessary) In fact, thought of this again yseterday while we were taking the right front hub off of a junker in the pick-n-pull, but the keys weren't in the car.
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i hope i can be of some assistance on here we do these keys for a living and as we are not in this country we are in the uk we are not looking For work just to assist members.

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A normal key such as your 9-3 /9-5 1999 2010 a LOCKSMITH /shoe shop uses a basic cloner (and because the machine says copy the shop says it will work not because he is experienced to know) this copies all 32 bytes of information from the original to the new key leaving the data on the original.

now what shop uses is a T5 transponder copy chip or a pcf7935 general changeable chip these cover a lot of older vehicles 1995 2010 and a few later ones.
now technically these will work once copied onto BUT not on SAABS
THE REASON IS THAT these chips are not strong enough in sending out a signal
partly the chip itself and partly the placement in the head of the key.

the answers to use genuine second hand keys remove the chip unlock it and clone your key the same way then put it into the new shell then cut it to your code.

if you have one of the earlier T5 transponders they can be made to work in an emergency BUT YOU need to remove the chip from the key and hold it neared sometimes on the aerial where the key sits there is a wire ring around it often moving it several times so that the car can see it then the car will start.

The later POD 4 button remote keys 2003 2010 second hand ones can be reused if they are unlocked from the previous vehicle with specialist equipment then coded into the CIM unit on the bench both the remote and transponder then work the car
we generally just use new replacement fobs as its a better service

IF YOU HAVE LOST YOUR KEYS

This is more specialist as you need a working key to code in another key even with dealer equipment to replace a total key lost we do this work on the bench it involves sending us the immobiliser twice unit or Cim unit we extract the key data on the bench and send them out with a cut key, transponder or remote ready to refit and start of course the cost of sending the unit to the UK http://www.autolocksmith.net/saab.html would probit this being cost effective.
but it can be done easily on the bench without the expensive dealer options of replacement units (removing the lost key so that it cannot be stolen)

i hope this info is of some help if i can assist please get in touch
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I have a source for replacement keys; depending on the year and key type $65-95, cut and shipped; just add the transmitter and cover, then have it programmed;


FYI, I was told that the 2 part 1999 transponder/chip key style is being discontinued; so Saab will be phasing them out; there should be allot of these blanks available (for those that want them); the all in one key will be available for models pre 2005 before the blade change
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To update my original post. I ended up calling www.clearcomtech.com and paying $100 for a complete OEM cut key with transponder. I called the dealer and got my key code by giving them my VIN. I then gave the code to Clearcomtech and they cut my key. I then took this key with my original to the dealer and had it all programmed to the car for free since it was under warranty at the time.
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thanks for updating your post, that is very helpful. I will see if I can find an indy with a tech 2 that will do it on the cheap since I'm out of warranty. This is definitely a good option to consider since they cut it for you.
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