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Old 1st July 2010
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hi, managed to bring me 1998 9-5 to a guy with a scan tool .
comes up with :

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P1460 immobilizer active.
if new t7 miu or twice module
program code in twice.

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can i fix this up with T7 suite or has it got to be a TECH 2 ?

( no wonder the thing wont start ................)

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If the T7 suite allows you to program to the twice and you have the Immobilizer code then you can try it; if not you would need the Tech II.

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yes t7 suite should allow you to enter in a immobilizer code for the ECU
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The ECU and the Twice aren't the same you need to make sure you can program the Twice not the ECU.

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yes t7 suite should allow you to enter in a immobilizer code for the ECU
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Default mmmmm looks like i`m screwed !!

hi, thanks for all the info !!!
now i sorta know what to do...... ( cant use t7 to fix it :-(

i cant understand how this happened... i reprogrammed the t7 and been driving it around for a couple months , then i disconnected the battery to do some work on the car now it wont start.......

i have two keys , one has a fob thingy hangin off it , and the other key comes out the fob like a switchblade knife..

any suggestions as to what i can do ? rang up the local holden dealers
( rosenthals in berri , south australia) who have a tech 2 , and they said " oh we only use it on holden vehicles , something to do with the dealership " ............

berri is only 20 km away....... no go
adelaide 250 km away .........dont really feel like draggin it this far on a trailer,,, but if i have to.....

any body know if theres any one in mildura ( 150 km away ) that can fix this up ?

i`m in renmark, south australia,...


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Other than the CEL; do you get any messages on the SID like key not accepted when the ignition is in the on position? Does the car sounds like it wants to start or no sound at all? Try removing/replacing fuses # 17 and 19 that might reset the management system; you can also try the same with fuse # 5. Also check all the fuses and relays related to the ignition.
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Other than the CEL; do you get any messages on the SID like key not accepted when the ignition is in the on position? Does the car sounds like it wants to start or no sound at all? Try removing/replacing fuses # 17 and 19 that might reset the management system; you can also try the same with fuse # 5. Also check all the fuses and relays related to the ignition.
do you mean check engine light when engine is running ? engine wont run at moment !!! because of this error.
no errors or warnings come up on the SID .
only got the error code P1460 number from a generic type scan tool.

its a bit weird , it crank over and not start for a bit , then gradually it will start to fire then it run for about 2 seconds then die...... if i try to start it again it wont do a thing.. if i leave it along time , then it do the same thing again. new cps and dic fitted....

i`ll try that with the fuses and report back later today....

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hmm i should have thought about this before , the battery has been disconnected for a couple days , but i connected up the battery and removed the fuses anyways .. no change ..

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Then you need the Tech II, it seems the fault has shut down your fuel system because it needs the immobilizer code.
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Then you need the Tech II, it seems the fault has shut down your fuel system because it needs the immobilizer code.


wow ...... dont really know if i`d buy another saab now, i mean its sorta pathetic really , that i gotta drag it on a 500 km round trip to get it fixed,
\ what about if someone further from the nearest saab service centre than me had the same problem ? out here in the outback that is a real possibility .....
its just not worth the hassel....

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wow ...... dont really know if i`d buy another saab now, i mean its sorta pathetic really , that i gotta drag it on a 500 km round trip to get it fixed,
\ what about if someone further from the nearest saab service centre than me had the same problem ? out here in the outback that is a real possibility .....
its just not worth the hassel....

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You modified the ECU, so don't blame your car for making you feel bad. Just use T7Suite and re-enter the correct immo code, reflash it and try again. Worse case: reflash it with the original bin.
The way i see it you haven't used a spare ECU.... Not very clever if you live in the middle of nowhere.....
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You modified the ECU, so don't blame your car for making you feel bad. Just use T7Suite and re-enter the correct immo code, reflash it and try again. Worse case: reflash it with the original bin.
The way i see it you haven't used a spare ECU.... Not very clever if you live in the middle of nowhere.....
hi, not in THIS post , but a earlier one,i said i did get a spare ecu and reprogrammed that, like i said , it was running perfect for a few months , tried the UNTOUCHED ecu , still didnt make any differance....

shouldnt be this hard...............

what about other saab owners that have had this problem ? what if they lived in the outback ???
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