300+ hp, 31mpg, RWD, 2-door coupe for $23K?

[Wulf]

It seems the 2011 Ford Mustang V6 is quite a bargain with the new engine and all other improvements. Me likey!

Too bad I don't need a new car soon but I think a 2011 Mustang definitely would be near the top of my shopping list. I always liked the new Mustang but never cared for the fuel mileage and old trashy V6. But this one changes everything. Makes me want to own an American car again.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/2...6-first-drive/

[boon94]

1 more HP than the camaro
1 more MPG than the camaro
$500 less than the camaro



I'd buy the ford over the chevy on principle (that whole bailout thing) if i was shopping for either.

[08manny]

growing up in a competitor household it pains me to say it, but ford is kicking a $ $ these days....

[MacNoob]

I wonder if Ford has figured out how to build seats yet, for a car that costs under $40k? The only remotely usable Ford seats I've encountered were in a Taurus SEL AWD. They were comfy enough, but kinda like sitting on a marshmallow.

[Wulf]

Originally Posted by MacNoob

I wonder if Ford has figured out how to build seats yet, for a car that costs under $40k?

I found the seats in the Fusion very comfortable. I also was impressed with the overall quality.
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=170154

[MacNoob]

I tried on a base Fusion - it seemed solidly screwed together and was very spacious, but I still had that feeling that the seats would kill me in about 10k miles, they didn't have that solid durable supportive feel to them.

[cjhutch]

You would want the V6 until you see the specs on the new 5.0 engine. Then you would not feel as good about your purchase and demand a V8. The new 5.0 puts out 412hp/390lb-ft. and gets better gas mileage than the current engine. That engine is going to make a lot more power once it gets into the hands of the Ford tuners. Check out the Ford promotional video and listen to that sweet STOCK exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw

[Wulf]

Originally Posted by cjhutch

You would want the V6 until you see the specs on the new 5.0 engine. Then you would not feel as good about your purchase and demand a V8. The new 5.0 puts out 412hp/390lb-ft. and gets better gas mileage than the current engine.

I imagine it would be quite a bit more expensive and a bit heavier as well. And I don't really want 400+ hp in a car. 250hp in my current car is more than enough already.

[cjhutch]

Originally Posted by Wulf

I imagine it would be quite a bit more expensive and a bit heavier as well. And I don't really want 400+ hp in a car. 250hp in my current car is more than enough already.

Fair enough, I'm sure it will be more expensive, but not heavy enough for you to notice a difference. You are talking a difference in engine size of 1.3 liters. It's not like most cars where you have the V8 being twice the size of the 4 or 6 cylinder.

Ford is really doing a great job overall in the U.S. market. 2 years ago there was no way I would even go close to a Ford dealer because they had nothing I wanted. Now they have three cars that I would really consider buying.

[900t]

Originally Posted by cjhutch

Fair enough, I'm sure it will be more expensive, but not heavy enough for you to notice a difference. You are talking a difference in engine size of 1.3 liters. It's not like most cars where you have the V8 being twice the size of the 4 or 6 cylinder.

Ford is really doing a great job overall in the U.S. market. 2 years ago there was no way I would even go close to a Ford dealer because they had nothing I wanted. Now they have three cars that I would really consider buying.

Remember when the Mustang had either 2.3 4-cylinder 88 hp or 4.9 V8 225 hp and weighed like 2800 lbs? The wimpy mouse or the raging tiger, nothing in between

Even the difference is pretty big, for 2010 it was only 4.0 V6 or 4.6 V8

I really prefer the Challenger exterior to the others. But the Mustang has a really much better interior, Challenger SRT-8 has the best seats and Camaro SS the best engine, Mustang the best price. Damnit

I think Chrysler is going to put their new V6 in the Challenger soon, I hope they offer a 6-speed manual to go with...

[saab19]

Originally Posted by 900t

Remember when the Mustang had either 2.3 4-cylinder 88 hp or 4.9 V8 225 hp and weighed like 2800 lbs? The wimpy mouse or the raging tiger, nothing in between

Even the difference is pretty big, for 2010 it was only 4.0 V6 or 4.6 V8

I really prefer the Challenger exterior to the others. But the Mustang has a really much better interior, Challenger SRT-8 has the best seats and Camaro SS the best engine, Mustang the best price. Damnit

I think Chrysler is going to put their new V6 in the Challenger soon, I hope they offer a 6-speed manual to go with...

why bother hoping for a manual? the only cars they made with them were vipers and crossfires....

I dislike the new muscle car designs, but I like the redesigned mustang the best, something about it from a certain angle makes me think of the skyline.

[stamonkey]

I hate to say it, but there is a couple Ford models that I wouldn't mind owning: Taurus SHO (a bit big though and no manual gearbox), new Mustang, and the 2011 Fiesta.

[PeriSoft]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the base mustang looks about as much like those photos as a Chevy Cobalt. I've been at a few auto shows recently, and the Mustang you get for $23k is a pretty wretched affair. Optioned like in those pics it comes close to 40, IIRC.

The SHO, by the way, while nicely put together, isn't just big - it's gargantuan. The beltline is almost as high as the Flex's; it makes you feel like a child to sit in it. You'd dislocate your shoulder if you tried to rest your arm on the window sill... It's quick and well-put-together, but let me put it this way: After driving the SHO, my 9-5 luxobarge felt like an early '90s Escort. And honestly, even in arc trim, it didn't feel that much slower, even though I know it's objectively not nearly as fast.

[900t]

Originally Posted by saab19

why bother hoping for a manual? the only cars they made with them were vipers and crossfires....

I dislike the new muscle car designs, but I like the redesigned mustang the best, something about it from a certain angle makes me think of the skyline.

The Challenger already has a manual option with both the 5.7 and 6.1 V8's so why not the V6?

[SaabKen]

Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 V6
306bhp/266 lb-ft
6-spd manual
0-60mph 5.7sec
Max. lateral acce: 0.87g
EPA: 17mpg/26mpg
$25,000 MSRP (base)

[ivanwakeup]

^^ good looking car, too bad it's a hyundai

On the note of the ford, i couldnt bring myself to buy a v6, even if it had 300hp. I would always know in the back of my head that i couldve had the v8 with 100 more hp in this case

i personally dont think the new mustang looks that great. Then again, i really dont think many new model cars look great in general. Call me crazy but i would take an e30 BMW m3 over a 2006+ (e50?) m3 any day.

that does sound like a great price though. i can't think of even a handful of other cars that offer something like that for so little. I'd probably expect to see most cars costing 30k+

[Shazam]

I'd still take the Chevy. I like the looks better, and penny to penny, doesn't the Camaro come better equipped than the 'Stang? People keep saying the Ford is cheaper, but it's not much more than sharp looking Altoids box with a nice V6 up front.

[boon94]

Originally Posted by Shazam

doesn't the Camaro come better equipped than the 'Stang?

Im not sure, but IMO the interior quality on base models is better on the ford. The chevy looks pretty bare inside until you start stacking up options.

[ChinaCat]

[QUOTE=ivanwakeup;1735862
i personally dont think the new mustang looks that great. Then again, i really dont think many new model cars look great in general. Call me crazy but i would take an e30 BMW m3 over a 2006+ (e50?) m3 any day.

that does sound like a great price though. i can't think of even a handful of other cars that offer something like that for so little. I'd probably expect to see most cars costing 30k+[/QUOTE]


I do think the new 'stang looks alot better than the 4th gens did though. With some mods ive seen some that i actually think look real good.

And hell yeah to the old m3 over the new !

[ivanwakeup]

Originally Posted by ChinaCat

I do think the new 'stang looks alot better than the 4th gens did though. With some mods ive seen some that i actually think look real good.

And hell yeah to the old m3 over the new !

i actually have come around to the 99-04 GT mustang looks. that hood scoop just looks MEAN .

e30>all things BMW, IMO.

newer cars seem to have lost their soul!