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Old 7th February 2010
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Default Can I get 200,000 Miles out of 2005-2005

I am considering buy a 2004 or 2005 Aero (manual) with about 50,000 miles on it in about 6 months.

We have:
9-7X, Bulletproof, 65,000 miles
9-3 Convertible, 2003, 45,000, Weekend screw around car
9-3 2007, off lease in 6 months.

My wife wants the 9-7x and I have about 12 grand cash to spend on a car. If I can get a well maintained 9-5 do you think I can get at least 150,000 without having to change the engine or tranny? I don't mind swapping alternators, radiators, AC systems, they tend to have a shelf life.

Anyone at between 150,000-200,000 and what are the experiences?
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Taking any car to 150-200K miles requires maintenance. No car can survive that much wear and tear without parts failing. Can the engine handle it? Of course, but only with proper maintenance. Take a look around this forum for common parts that will fail over time. If you're taking a car that far you can expect to replace a turbocharger (you may not have to, but expect to), of course normal things like brakes, brake pads, tires, filters (oil, air, cabin, fuel), and other normal wear items. If you glance at the Sticky: FAQs at the top of this forum page these are all common problems that many SAAB 9-5s face, so glance through and expect that you'll be opening some or many of these to fix.

There are two types of car owners out there (and perhaps many in between), but the main are those that drive their car and do almost nothing in maintenance and just expect to buy a new/used car in a few years. And the opposite extreme where someone pays very close attention to their vehicle performing by themselves proper regular maintenance to keep that car on the road as long as possible. My MY00 9-5 has 170K miles and going strong. I have no intentions of getting another car until this thing is either totaled or spontaneously combusts.

One of the fantastic things about this forum is that all the information is here to do it yourself and save a ton of money versus bringing it into a dealer every time something needs repair.

Good Luck

My $0.02 is the 9-5 is a great car, easy to work on, fun to drive, and with only 50K miles it has a lot of life left in it.
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I am considering buy a 2004 or 2005 Aero (manual) with about 50,000 miles on it in about 6 months.

We have:
9-7X, Bulletproof, 65,000 miles
9-3 Convertible, 2003, 45,000, Weekend screw around car
9-3 2007, off lease in 6 months.

My wife wants the 9-7x and I have about 12 grand cash to spend on a car. If I can get a well maintained 9-5 do you think I can get at least 150,000 without having to change the engine or tranny? I don't mind swapping alternators, radiators, AC systems, they tend to have a shelf life.

Anyone at between 150,000-200,000 and what are the experiences?
I have a MY00 9-5 Manual Aero. It has 151k on the clock and running very strong. There is no timing chain noise, sump was squeaky clean, interior is in good shape, and the exterior isn't too bad. It's pretty evident that the previous owners took very good care of the engine on my car, and that's what I am concerned with. The shocks, struts, and springs were replaced by the PO, along with some other problem areas. The Cabin fan unfortunately went out recently, but I can get that replaced no problem.

If you change the oil very regularly and use synthetic oil, you should be just fine well beyond 200k miles. Also, if you get the Aero, you are much less likely to be replacing that Turbo. The TD-04 are very strong turbos.
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If you get any T7 car (all 9-5s) you should definately do the PCV update kit and change your oil every 3k with FULL synthetic. Be sure to replace your spark plugs and MAF on time, because these engines do not do well when they run lean. When you get closer to 100k, you will need to replace your crank position sensor.
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If you change the oil very regularly and use synthetic oil, you should be just fine well beyond 200k miles. Also, if you get the Aero, you are much less likely to be replacing that Turbo. The TD-04 are very strong turbos.
For those that use synthetic oil...is 10,000 miles between changes a realistic target (2004 and beyond engines...post-sludge era)?
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For those that use synthetic oil...is 10,000 miles between changes a realistic target (2004 and beyond engines...post-sludge era)?
NO. This is mostly the reason so many Saabs have been victims of sludge. No matter what, DON'T go over 5k without changing, or every 3 months.
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NO. This is mostly the reason so many Saabs have been victims of sludge. No matter what, DON'T go over 5k without changing, or every 3 months.
I have a T-7 9-3 and change the synthetic oil every 3,000 miles which is only every 9 months. I am not sold on the idea of the "3 month" oil change interval if you don't hit 3-5,000 miles.
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Also, if you get the Aero, you are much less likely to be replacing that Turbo. The TD-04 are very strong turbos.
All (not just Aeros) 9-5 2004+ have TD-04 turbos so you shouldn't worry about that
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lol ... such low expectations!

I bought my 2005 9-5 Aero SC from Wulf back in Sept of 08.
Since then, I have put 50,000 miles on it and now have 161,000 miles total.
The car runs better today than it likely did when it left the showroom.
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For those that use synthetic oil...is 10,000 miles between changes a realistic target (2004 and beyond engines...post-sludge era)?
It probably would be fine. I changed synthetic oil in my Saabs every 6 - 7K miles just to be on the safe side. It also depends on your driving conditions.

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I bought my 2005 9-5 Aero SC from Wulf back in Sept of 08.
Since then, I have put 50,000 miles on it and now have 161,000 miles total.
The car runs better today than it likely did when it left the showroom.
Still going strong, eh? 2005 seems to be a good year for the 9-5 Aero. I think I'll have to get myself another one of those fine automobiles. Oh wait, that will be this Saturday!
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our 2001 9-5 will hit 200K in 100 miles....

We are the 2nd owner and its in damn good shape

the previous had a service file about 2 inches thick... :-)
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2005 seems to be a good year for the 9-5 Aero. I think I'll have to get myself another one of those fine automobiles. Oh wait, that will be this Saturday!
What.... What? No pics yet? Driving it back from CA? Whassup with the Merc wagon?
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To reply to the original poster, my 2001 LPT wagon seems to be self destructing around 120k miles. No major engine work but once a month major repairs recently....

* Feb - new rad to attempt to fix a #@*#^$ coolant leak. $250
* Feb - P0785, new gear position sensor $300
* Dec 30 (happy new year!) - new water pump - squeaking and wobbly. $100
* Nov - heater hose blew. About $50 to modify for removal of coolant bypass with new hoses.
* Sept - Tires! $850 for new Primacys (well, ok not a repair)
* Aug - Turbo time. $600 ish.
* July - 120k miles major maintenance including new battery.

My theory is the car decided it likes attention. I had 60k km without anything but an oil change - then did the major maintenance and stuff started exploding.

I would like to say that the engine/trans feel like they could go another 120k easily, but I'm starting to be suspicious about the head gasket.

Coming soon - new exhaust (next couple weeks for sure). Rear shocks (can wait for spring).

We are REALLY hard on the car though. Lots of -30 C action, slogging in deep snow, heavy loads. Our daily drive is 40km each way and the car is parked outside without a block heater during the day. No problem starting.

Oil changes are 5000 miles with 0W-40 full synthetic.

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What.... What? No pics yet? Driving it back from CA? Whassup with the Merc wagon?
The Merc wagon is fine and runs like new with 153K miles on the odometer. The problem is.. it's not a Saab! I was supposed to pick it up this weekend but the snow in the mid-atlantic region messed up my plans.

Posting pictures or providing details before I sign all the papers is bad luck as I experienced before with another 9-5.
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134125

More details in 6 days. If all goes well.
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