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Question Who makes the 9-3 components?

Guys,

searched around and couldnt find specifics. Who makes the powertrain components for the 9-3 (2008 2.0T specifically)?

Engine is of course GM Ecotec,
Mitsubishi Turbo (TD04HL-15T?)
Toyota Transmission (5_speed auto)?
Siemens Injectors

Anyone have an idea?

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I thought the manual was made in house, but the auto was an Aisin-Warner transmission. AW makes transmissions for Toyota, Lexus, MB, etc....pretty solid boxes....

What other powertrain components are you talking about? Suspension bits? Driveshafts?

In most cases, those are from a GM supplier, which could be any of dozens of companies.
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This has hardly been a "Swedish" car for the last several years, International is more like it. There will be no shortage of mechanical parts.

The Manual Trans is Getrag (Think Ford). Cobalts, Malibu's, Caddy's, Opels, and Vauxhall's all share various parts.

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Major powertrain components.

The turbo for example, its a mitsu, but whats the model?

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I thought the manual was made in house, but the auto was an Aisin-Warner transmission. AW makes transmissions for Toyota, Lexus, MB, etc....pretty solid boxes....

What other powertrain components are you talking about? Suspension bits? Driveshafts?

In most cases, those are from a GM supplier, which could be any of dozens of companies.
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major powertrain components.

The turbo for example, its a mitsu, but whats the model?
td-04hl .... up to 06...

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and for the 08?
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Google it
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I did, nowhere near a hit
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So far found that its either:

TD04HL-14T
TD04L-14T
TD04

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I am just guessing but I thought Saab stamped the sheet metal for the car, made the manual transmission. I don't think Saab is much different from BMW or Toyota except the other companies make their own engines as Saab did for the classic 900 and 4 cylinder engines for the next generation 900/original 9-3.

Engine: Opel, Germany
Automatic transmission: Japan
Brake parts: Germany, UK (saw some labels on the car)
Seats: (?) Lear, an American company with a factory in Sweden and many other places
Glass: supplier
filters: supplier
alternator, turbo: supplier
windshield wipers and motor: supplier
wheels: Ronal in Poland
tires: supplier
headlights: supplier
shocks: supplier

dashboard: ? , some of the electronics are undoubtedly by suppliers
carpet: ?
door handles:
ACC: supplier???
radio: common supplier as GM and not GM???
exhaust: ?
water pump: ?
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The Manual Transmission is a "Getrag" http://www.getrag.de/en/16

The TD04 variations are quite common, I certainly would not worry about getting mechanical parts for these cars.... they'll run out of body parts first.
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data from GM Media:

Originally a design developed for Fiat, Opel and Saab applications, the F40 (MT2) is a GM Powertrain - Europe six-speed manual transaxle built in Russelsheim, Germany. Its first use in a North American application was the Pontiac G6 for the 2006 model year. It is also used in some Saab 9-3.
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Yes, the F40 is a "GM" Transmission Manufactured by Getrag, which is a also partner of Ford. Russelheim, is where the Magna Steyr Assembly plant is. Saab 93SS, Opel, Mercedes G class and other cars are assembled there.

http://www.getrag.de/en/195

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Russelheim, is where the Magna Steyr Assembly plant is. Saab 93SS, Opel, Mercedes G class and other cars are assembled there.
Russelheim - this is Opel's plant, not Magna Steyr. Magna Steyr assembly plant is in Graz, Austria.
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Russelheim - this is Opel's plant, not Magna Steyr. Magna Steyr assembly plant is in Graz, Austria.
You are correct, in Austria, my Bad...... but the Point being GM does not Manufacture the F40 manual Transmission. It is an outsourced part.
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The five speed manual transmission is/was made in Sweden, according to the 2004 window sticker
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The five speed manual transmission is/was made in Sweden, according to the 2004 window sticker
Mine said that too... but when i dropped my 5 speed it had made in sauerkraut land stamped on it. You'd be suprised just how loose some of the manufacturing regulations are. They probably screwed in the last bolt in sweden in order to not pay taxes on the parts.
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Car parts for the Saab, and many cars, are made from around the world.

Look closely at your components. A bunch of Bosch parts made in Germany, coolant parts in Poland and France, German and Japanese brake parts, etc.
Many components have the supplier and country of origin stamped or labeled on them. It's pretty interesting to look around the engine bay at this stuff.

Nice thing is not many of the parts are sourced from cheap countries in Asia or Mexico and such.
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Car parts for the Saab, and many cars, are made from around the world.

Look closely at your components. A bunch of Bosch parts made in Germany, coolant parts in Poland and France, German and Japanese brake parts, etc.
Many components have the supplier and country of origin stamped or labeled on them. It's pretty interesting to look around the engine bay at this stuff.

Nice thing is not many of the parts are sourced from cheap countries in Asia or Mexico and such.
like our Bulgarian made oil cartridge! nobody makes an oil cartridge like the Bulgarians!!!!
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The F40 6-speed gearbox is NOT made by Getrag.
I wrote Getrag and they answered me that the gearbox is NOT theirs.
The gearbox is made by GM-OPEL Powertrain company.
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