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Old 9th April 2009
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Default Neutral safety Switch?

I did the search read what I could but...

Before I order the somewhat pricey part here is what happens..

Car wont start sometimes
Happens usually when the car is warm
No sound at all from the starter.
If I move the Automatic shifter back and forth and let the car sit for a few minutes it will eventually start.


Seem like the culprit?

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It sounds like the culprit. Have you tried the bypass trick?

I replaced the switch on our 2000 lpt wagon at about 98,000 miles. Rowing the gear lever a few times would fix it for a month or 2, but I finally bit the bullet and repalced it.

BTW the one for the 5 speed transmission is $550...could be worse
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It sounds like the culprit. Have you tried the bypass trick?

I replaced the switch on our 2000 lpt wagon at about 98,000 miles. Rowing the gear lever a few times would fix it for a month or 2, but I finally bit the bullet and repalced it.

BTW the one for the 5 speed transmission is $550...could be worse
Thanks, I think I missed the bypass info?
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Thanks, I think I missed the bypass info?
Search the forums, it's there somewhere. Basically, the way it works when you turn the key is the computer will verify if everything is ok (if key is accepted, transmission in neutral or park, etc, etc) before activating the starter relay. Bypass trick is based on direct jumping the starter relay. You wire the relay into a button-push type of switch which you use to start the car. This bypasses the computer decision program and directly applies current to the starter (like in a race car).

The downside is that you have to be careful not to accidentally push the button while the car is in motion. Your key starter has a protection that will not allow for starter to be activated when engine is running. Bypass button has no such thing and you can grind the starter/crank gears.
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you can pour water on the NSS when the problem occurs to see if it will start. also the temporary bypass is to use a really thin paper clip and bend it into a U shape. then insert one end of it into the thick white wire (on the NSS plug) slot and the other end into the thickest black wire slot. then see if it turns over. if your car starts then you do need a NSS.
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I have one that I will sell you. Send me an email of PM if interested. I replaced mine but didnt need to so now i have an extra.
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I put off replacing mine for a year, I would move the gear selector up and down until things were working again. It always seemed to act up when I had guests in the car, which was embarrassing. I decided to replace it the day the car went into limp mode on the highway. Best money I've spent on this car yet.

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Best price for the part?

eEuroparts.com?? $280
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unless if you buy it used eeuroparts has the best new part price out there.
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oh one thing you might beable to drill the rivets out of the housing and rebuild it like on the 900's. which is sanding all the contacts and putting new grease in the switch.
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I just replaced mine. I would pull the battery and clean and spray marine water proof lubricant around it, run the shifter back and forwards and it would work until I drove in the next rain storm. It seems a strange and exposed place to put something that has electrical contacts. I ended up replacing it (eEuroparts). I downloaded some instructions and it took me 2 hours total.
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Replaced mine yesterday, the write up I found was perfect! Under 1 hour and I was done.

One thing, the write up said to leave the car in Neutral because the new part ships in the Neutral position, the one i got was in the Park position.

eeuroparts is great, had the part in a day!
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Just installed mine (also from eeuroparts). easy instalation, 1 hour, works like a dream. I used the paperclip bypass until the part came and it worked just fine, just make sure you use jumbo paper clips because when i used a smaller grade clip, there wasn't enough current getting to the starter and so it took some jiggling before it would start. replaced it with the jumbo kind and never had the problem again (i've also heard of taking safety pins and poking them directly into the wire if you're having trouble jaming the paper clips in).
My neutral safety switch came in neutral but if your car happenes to be in park its no big deal, just twist the switch clockwise two clicks (basically to the far right till it doesn't turn anymore) and thats the park position. install and you're laughing!
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Let's say I had a 9-5 on its last legs and this switch keeps being problematic, is there any reason why I couldnt just keep the paper clip in place and not replace the part? I realize that its a saftey item, but I also do not want to spend $270-300 on a part for a car that is on its way to retirement.

Thanks for any input.
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Also, will this jumper turn out the transmission light (only code is for this switch).
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I'm not sure about the transmission light but like I said, I had the paperclip in mine for quite a while and it worked great. If I was planning on retiring the car soon, I would have probably just left it in there and saved mucho $$$. Plus, its not that bad of a safety concern considering the car has to be in park anyway before you can remove the key from the ignition, so in other words the car should be in park everytime you start it.
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Well, so much for the bypass. Before I could even do it my check transmission light came on, and the indicator lights on the dash telling me what gear I was in stopped working.

Sounds like I need to shell out some cash for the switch afterall.
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http://www.saabusaparts.com/catalog/...roducts_id=861

$249 !
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you can splice into the wires and run a toggle switch off of it. or try and rebuild it buy drilling out the rivets, clean everything out of it, relube and clean all contacts to see if that will work too. it might but I haven't had time to try it on my because I am overseas working right now. good luck bro!
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Well, so much for the bypass. Before I could even do it my check transmission light came on, and the indicator lights on the dash telling me what gear I was in stopped working.

Sounds like I need to shell out some cash for the switch afterall.
Which car was this on? The '99, '00 or the '04? My '03 has a transmission light on and is missing the M mode, but everything else is working fine.

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