Wet floor again

[gsantarelli1]

After cleaning up a totally soaked driver and passenger floor on Christmas eve I had to do it again this morning. Once again water melted underneath the OEM winter floor mats and froze; thawed out this morning. The floor was completely soaked again.

I soaked it up and took all 4 mats out of the car. The passenger and rear floor areas were bone dry, since no one besides me has been in the car since the last time I cleaned water up.

Is anybody else having this trouble with these rubber mats? It seems that once water runs underneath them, it can't evaporate. After the last time I cleaned the water up we had a heavy rainfall and the floors stayed dry, so I know the car isn't leaking anywhere.

[mikesbox]

is this water getting in just from tracking snow and ice in or is there a seal broken somewhere ?

i had a missing sunroof drain tube which i found out the hard way shortly after taking delivery

[JonV]

Check the Door Gaskets for Decay/Disintegration and the Cabin Air Filter Area for Iceing/Blockage.

[gsantarelli1]

Originally Posted by mikesbox

is this water getting in just from tracking snow and ice in or is there a seal broken somewhere ?

i had a missing sunroof drain tube which i found out the hard way shortly after taking delivery

It's ice and snow. After cleaning the water out Christmas eve, I drove from Scranton to the King of Prussia mall on the 26th on the PA turnpike in pouring rain and not a drop of water came into the car from anywhere.

After that I didn't put the mats back in until Wednesday of last week. In the time the mats were out of the car, the carpets stayed completely dry. Now, not even a week later, the carpets are wet again.

[mikesbox]

very strange. i couldnt imagine being able to track in that much snow and ice to make the floor soaking, let alone with the rubber mats. maybe someone else has the answer ?

[jlrdrony]

seems to have a water hose, such as those used in the gardens to irrigate the flowers by drip of water.

check the source of leakage through the wiring harness.

water can enter through the corrugated tube going inside the groomed walls and be led through the wires inside the passenger floor.

Another possibilities,

• a lack of sealing paste in the body joints between the welding points.
  
• Porosity radiator in heater chamber (check coolant level).
  

[gsantarelli1]

At this point I'm nearly 100% sure it's the mats. The floor is completely dry, I put the stock mats back in and washed the car. No leaks whatsoever. Even this morning, the floor is still dry. I ran the hose over the car for about 10 minutes continuously without a single leak anywhere.

[JonV]

Are these the Solid Rubber Mats your talking about?

[Jonathan93]

If you store the car in a warm place in the winter like I do. I leave the sunroof tilted which helps evaporate alot of that moisture and water!

[JonV]

LMAO, if he had a warm place to store the car the mats wouldn't be freezing to the floor,,,

[gsantarelli1]

Originally Posted by JonV

LMAO, if he had a warm place to store the car the mats wouldn't be freezing to the floor,,,

Yupper



They are the solid rubber mats. I took them out and put an old bath towel on the driver's floor, I'll use that till spring comes.

[JonV]

I Don't know how much snow or Ice you or passengers track in, but what happens is it melts from the heat after your in and driving and then sits in the rubber "resevoir", freezes when you park and the next time someone gets in from the snow they track more in, it melts again when the heat comes on, overflows the mat into the carpet..it's a circle...I think you've just got to be better at kicking the snow off your shoes and pull the mats when there loaded with snow.

That Snow, Ice, Water has to be removed. It's not a little dampness that the heater will cause to evaporate.

[gsantarelli1]

Originally Posted by JonV

I Don't know how much snow or Ice you or passengers track in, but what happens is it melts from the heat after your in and driving and then sits in the rubber "resevoir", freezes when you park and the next time someone gets in from the snow they track more in, it melts again when the heat comes on, overflows the mat into the carpet..it's a circle...I think you've just got to be better at kicking the snow off your shoes and pull the mats when there loaded with snow.

That Snow, Ice, Water has to be removed. It's not a little dampness that the heater will cause to evaporate.

Yea, I see what ya mean but its hard since here in NEPA, we've had snow on the ground for the past 2 months.

[jlrdrony]

you must remove the carpet floor to see if there is water under the carpet to see what is the origin of the problem.

you don't use military boots!!!!! joke.

[DagwoodJStevens]

I found my water source to be coming in from thru the cabin air filter housing. Specifically through the deterioted foam gasket between the firewall and housing. I pulled it back and applied caulking all around. Worked like a charm. A friend had Saab address his same issue under warranty which was a chincy ABS plastic deflector/cover over the air filter housing. It helped but didn't work 100% for heavy rain so I applied my fix. Don't let the problem go too long if this turns out to be your source of water coming in because it will take out your blower motor. Don't ask me how I know

[aerojon]

also make sure the whole drain sock for the scuttle is totally clear of debris..

[Moreno Chulo89]

I have this same problem except for in the rear only behind the drivers seat. I dont have floor mats. Not sure what the first owner or dealership did with them. I do know that the previous owner had an encounter with a deer last year as it showed on autocheck. The dealership repaired the rear door but I don't know why the floor gets wet.

[Diggs]

Originally Posted by Moreno Chulo89

I have this same problem except for in the rear only behind the drivers seat. I dont have floor mats. Not sure what the first owner or dealership did with them. I do know that the previous owner had an encounter with a deer last year as it showed on autocheck. The dealership repaired the rear door but I don't know why the floor gets wet.

FIX ASAP. There is an amp under there and you don't want to know how much it is to fix/replace.

[Moreno Chulo89]

Originally Posted by Diggs

FIX ASAP. There is an amp under there and you don't want to know how much it is to fix/replace.

Ugh oh! Theres an amp where? Because I thought it was under the front passenger seat. So its under the carpet behind the drivers seat???
It isnt wet as we speak.

[Diggs]

Originally Posted by Moreno Chulo89

Ugh oh! Theres an amp where? Because I thought it was under the front passenger seat. So its under the carpet behind the drivers seat???
It isnt wet as we speak.

Doh, sorry to get you freaked out. In 2007 the amp is in the rear of the car. No worries. I need to pay attention better....