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Default So has anybody got the phone fully functioning??

When I say fully functioning, I mean
-hit phone on my steering wheel
-scroll to the name i want to dial in the ICM2
-call them and have conversation

I have read that Malibu was working with MObridge(sp?) to get the full phone function to work. Does anybody know any updates?

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...ighlight=phone

Some other questions:
-Is there any way for me to buy the module/box that has the SIM card slot in it?
-Can I make that work in the us? Aren't cell phones now on a GSM netwrok, meaning most phones will work world wide?

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If you are in Europe and the module is fitted in he boot, you can, but yes, you need to remove the SIM card every time or have a duplicate SIM issued, which not many operators do.
^^anybody know what that is called, or a P/N?

Is there any way to tap into the Onstar box, and Hack it with an old cell phone, to make the phone function work?

If you live in the UK, and your phone works, could you explain to me how it works?

I'm kinda tired of staring a ICM/steering wheel that has full phone functionality, and is even designed around a phone keypad, and not be able to use it.
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The module is called Electronic unit Navigation system Telephone
Here is an EPC screenshot:



I live in Europe, so I bought a prepaid sim card, insert it in the module and it works. It has a different number because the operator will not make a duplicate sim, but at least it works
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thanks for the info. I didn't know there was a DVD player option

If i am looking at that correctly, there is a US version.

looks like a viable P/N

http://www.thesaabsite.com/shop/sear...1=Start+Search

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Mihai,

Who makes that unit? I just tried doing a search for it and couldnt find anything...

I am also waiting for mObridge to fully integrate the phone function as well... what Malibu said, it looks like they are still working on it.
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Is there any way to tap into the Onstar box, and Hack it with an old cell phone, to make the phone function work?

If you live in the UK, and your phone works, could you explain to me how it works?

I'm kinda tired of staring a ICM/steering wheel that has full phone functionality, and is even designed around a phone keypad, and not be able to use it.
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125173

Heres a thread I started on this very subject. It has some very usefull information to help you go through with the modification.

First It WILL BE EXPENSIVE.

Second, because its expensive, you will be the first to do it in the US.

Third, I think you will give up when you know whats involved in achieving your goal and how much its gonna cost.

Before you begin, you need to understand that the european phone network works on different frequencies to the US. we use 900/1800 gsm, the US uses 800/1900 gsm. the different frequencies require slightly different hardware to work. You would need to buy the same 'SIM unit' I have in my UK 93ss and then change the 'Erricson GM41'(euro 900/1800) card for an 'Erricson GM42'(US 800/1900) card(as found in the MY06+ digital 'onstar' box) in order to have the hardware to make it work.
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This is the European TEL2 unit which contains the GM41 Card(which is almost Identical the the GM42 card in the onstar box but works on the european 900/1800 GSM Cell Network.) It Also contains the european GPS navigation hardware(which is free to use, unlike onstar) and the bluetooth components.(you would need to install more stuff to make the euro gps part work in the US but that is for a different thread as we are concentrating on the TEL2 part of the unit).

To clarify: 850/1900 GSM is the radio frequencies used by the US cell phone networks(pre 3G) and is what the GM42 card in the onstar box transmits and recieves in.
900/1800 GSM is the radio frequencies used by the European(and rest of world) cell phone networks(pre 3G) and is what the GM41 card in the TEL2 box transmits and recieves in.
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wow, lots of info to digest. let me read through it and im sure ill have questions. Thanks!
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'Erricson GM42'(US 800/1900) card(as found in the MY06+ digital 'onstar' box) in order to have the hardware to make it work.
= about as easy to find as rocking horse poop.
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= about as easy to find as rocking horse poop.
the gm42 was also available to buy on its own and in other products that could be canibalised.
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the gm42 was also available to buy on its own and in other products that could be canibalised.
did you ever get this finished?

-Why can't you just swap a GM42 into our current box?
-Is there any way you can swap a cell phone internals into our box?

What about incorporating BT kit like this:
http://costartech.com/pb/products/bluestar.html

And have that somehow communicate with our ICM? So basically instead of using the onstar buttons to call, using the ICM?

And BTW, I know nothing about any of this stuff, so bear with me... Just trying to learn
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did you ever get this finished?

- (1) Why can't you just swap a GM42 into our current box?
- (2) Is there any way you can swap a cell phone internals into our box?

(3) What about incorporating BT kit like this:
http://costartech.com/pb/products/bluestar.html

And have that somehow communicate with our ICM? So basically instead of using the onstar buttons to call, using the ICM? (4)

And BTW, I know nothing about any of this stuff, so bear with me... Just trying to learn
1. The current box is analog, not digital the communication language between the current modem and the GM42 would be different.
2. You could but as you say in 4 you need to make it talk to the car. That is the tough bit with the fiber optic network. It does not like other components it does not understand on the network.
3. Their list says no. The Saab OnStar had quirks from standard onstar (like the fibre optic network) so I'm guessing that it really means No.
4. Someone did hack a bluetooth widgit so the onstar buttons were used instead of the buttons on the unit (basicly rehousing it in a new shell with the onstar buttons on the front to make it look more stock).

The best bet is a TEL2 unit from the EU and swapping the GM41 for a GM42 they are identical on the communication language, just different on the frequency they talk to the cell phone network on. They all you need is an ATT Or TMo chip for it. Your car would have a different phone number but you could divert your personal phone to the car when you are in it and then the car would ring when people call you.
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Why not spend the $100 or so to buy a SIM card duplicator? Then your car phone would ring whenever someone dialed your personal cell phone number.

Some folks will buy these and burn a copy of their SIM cards for safe keeping. If someone steals your cell phone, or you lose it, or drop it overboard, placing the duplicate SIM into a new instrument will instantly provide you with al of your contact list/address book data.
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thanks for all the info!
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The best bet is a TEL2 unit from the EU and swapping the GM41 for a GM42 they are identical on the communication language, just different on the frequency they talk to the cell phone network on. They all you need is an ATT Or TMo chip for it. Your car would have a different phone number but you could divert your personal phone to the car when you are in it and then the car would ring when people call you.
You would also need the parcel shelf wiring loom for the EU tel2 unit. if you already had onstar(analog or digital) then the optical cables will already be there. here in the uk, you can get a second sim with the same number on it if you have a monthly line rental contract cell phone.
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You would also need the parcel shelf wiring loom for the EU tel2 unit. if you already had onstar(analog or digital) then the optical cables will already be there. here in the uk, you can get a second sim with the same number on it if you have a monthly line rental contract cell phone.
hi there.is that right that you can get a duplicate sim.i have a sim card reader in mine and wanted to have the same number.in tha car,but was told by 02 that you cant do that.
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Woosaaby: that tel2 you found in your other thread on ebay, what did you use for the search criteria?

and can anybody tell me what this is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAAB-...mZ120300740398
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hi there.is that right that you can get a duplicate sim.i have a sim card reader in mine and wanted to have the same number.in tha car,but was told by 02 that you cant do that.
it is entirely dependant on network provider. I used to work for Vodafone about 5 years ago and it was available then.
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Woosaaby: that tel2 you found in your other thread on ebay, what did you use for the search criteria?

and can anybody tell me what this is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAAB-...mZ120300740398
I think thats for the old 93. Try searching on ebay.co.uk for a tel2 or sim reader for the 93ss. it will look like the one in the pics above.
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this ones for the convertible but contains the same internals and works the same, it just doesnt have the little brackets to secure it under the parcel shelf.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-SAAB9-...d=p3286.c0.m14

compare it to my one above, you'll see the small differences. but it will work the same.
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this ones for the convertible but contains the same internals and works the same, it just doesnt have the little brackets to secure it under the parcel shelf.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-SAAB9-...d=p3286.c0.m14

compare it to my one above, you'll see the small differences. but it will work the same.
thanks! $$$, not to bad, I'll keep an eye out.

Now I just need to find a GM42 card. IIRC, these are in the newer 2007+ onstar boxes?
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