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| Saab 9-3 Sports Saloon/Sedan, Combi & Convertible Workshop Saab 9-3 Sport Saloon/Sedan, Combi & Convertible (MY: 2003 - Present) Technical Forum |
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A slightly damp day today welcomed the Turbo X test drive. I was driving the automatic with Playstation-like thumb-button shifters. I had my wife and 9-month with me so we had the baby seat installed in the back too. This was going to be a real-world test.
First Impressions - I must say I really like the look of the car's front end. unfortunately, much of the side of the body doesn't say much though it stays very sleek. The back end is also awesome-looking. Very mean like in person and understated with the black with gun metal trimming. Build - I don't like the matte plastic bits around the windows. It makes the car seem very cheap. The front and back trim pieces make up for it a little bit. Inside, I love th carbon fibre trim! I also love the fit and finish of the interior. Again, quite understated yet with a more sporty feel than something luxurious. Ergonomics - Me being 6'3", I've got long legs so I found it a bit tighter than I liked. Adjustment still fit well - I wish I could have stretched out a little bit more. I love the larger thickness of the steering wheel. It has a great stable feel. Handling and Performance - When I first turned the car on, i couldn't really hear its low rumbling because i was sitting inside. The sound was very bassy and was sometimes ear-deafening at speed. I got passed that however when I did several quick launches, zero to..dunno-how-fast-i'm-going. The car definitely pushed me back a little bit into the seat, but was barely noticeable because the flood was still gradual. It's probably because the seat hugged me so well, supported me in every way, especially during the corners. And going through those corners, it reminded me a lot of my SVT Focus - a car that corners like it's in a cartoon. During the ride, we also hit some rough spots on the road. The suspension was firm but not jarring. The steering was very direct and weighty, not vague at all. I felt connected to the road the whole time, more so than the Infiniti G37s I test drove the same time last year, and just as much as the SVT Focus. Braking and turning at speed was also a thrill and a half, especially in semi-wet weather. So, what I liked: 1. Build quality, fit and finish inside and out 2. Ride quality 3. XWD system - could this be a Swedish GTR? 4. 4 doors for the baby 5. Big boot 6. Looks inside and out. 7. Sticky Pirelli tires What I didn't like: 1. Ear-deafening bassy exhaust can get annoying 2. Plastic window trim 3. Turbo lag 4. Acceleration disconnection - all SAABs are like this - effortless! 5. Sucky head unit for the radio. I'm thinking of getting this car before the employee pricing ends this month. I'm hoping to test-drive the manual version on Tuesday. |
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Nice review, looking forward to hearing your impressions about the manual tranny. I'm also curious how much room there was for the car seat. Which model do you have, where was it placed, how much room between the seat back and the front edge of the car seat was there? Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Sorry to see you got sxxxxxd with an automatic.
When you try the manual, make sure you release the clutch early and keep giving plenty of gas. Don't be afraid of stalling the car. Keep the needle in the orange zone and have plenty of fun. Take her on the twisties and floor it like there is no tomorrow. Same for turning in intersections, see how that 0-35 feels without fear of fishtailing. Keep the windows down, the tires will not squeal. OK, ok you can do that too, but Jr. may whine See the new deals, copy the ads from saabnet, some NJ dealer lists 3 cars for around 36k a piece, haggle and remember to lease. The sub-25k rpm drone is part of the experience, love it, i explain to the passenger/victims that it is the call of the Valkyries
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Now if they would only make a Turbo X convertible!
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We placed the car seat in the middle and rear-facing and it had plenty of space - it didn't hit the front seats. However, getting our 9 month old, 22 pound, long-limbed boy proved to be a little troublesome. Sitting in the rear seat, I couldn't get him in unless I was a contortionist. I had my wife put him in because she was smaller. And with the baby seat in the middle, having two other passengers in the rear would prove a bit tight. The 9-5 we have had no problem fitting everyone in. |
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And I was actually thinking of financing the car.. One thing i didn't know in the auto was that there's a sport mode/button - is that correct? So maybe it wasn't lag I was experiencing but the throttle lag. Either way, it didn't feel instant, nor did the electronic shifting. I also couldn't shift and do sharp turns near the same time with the thumb controls. I would have preferred flappy paddles instead. |
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Sorry, don't mean to patronize, get what you like, in the end having fun is what matters!
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I am shocked you didnt like the exhaust, i think its one of the highest highlights of the car besides a real nice XWD system.
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...Okay..so I didn't get to test drive the manual car today - I balked at it. I still have my heart set on the G37S Coupe which is my first choice. You can't argue much about 330HP versus 280HP. I also like the G37's exhaust note a lot more.
And due to certain circumstances, like prioritizing to get a house instead, I'm no longer in the market for the Turbo X. Maybe another time. |
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Yeah, anybody who puts a kid in the center seat of a car is looking to get a herniated disc.
There's a reason that minivans and SUVs dominate the family market. They just make sense. I had a Mitsubishi Galant for about a year with my first kid before we broke down and got the minivan. And a Sportcombi doesn't count! The issue is having to stoop to put the kid in the seat. And a G37? A 2 DOOR?!? You crazy. |
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BTW, I'm still quite fit from all the bicycling I do so I won't have any problems with my back. |
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Yeah, I used to be a young pup like you. Excercise is no defense (I blew out a disc despite being in extremely good shape, running, lifting weights, etc.)
Yeah, minivans suck. Necessary evil. Hell, if you get past one kid, you'll have one, I guarantee it. Especially with gas the way it is today. You'd have to be crazy to drive an SUV over a minivan. My wife's van gets better mileage than my 9-3! |
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Never!! LOL
I'd rather get an estate if we're to get something bigger. |
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You will be assimilated.
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I like cars for more than their utilitarian purposes, and to suggest getting a minivan is truly a blasphemy. My 9-5 gets fantastic range; roughly 600+ miles per tank. Stoop to get a child in the seat? I've figured out ways to get around that.
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Yeah, some of us don't know the basics of birth control, or are just insane, and have a brood much too large to fit in a mere 9-5.
With 4, I can't even go with a 9-7X! Too bad GM didn't badge engineer a Saab minivan. Just kidding. |
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Another classic from my oldest: "Daddy, why is mommy's Honda going so slow all the time, is it because the wheels are too small?" Now imagine a 420 hp AWD X 6-speed minivan with 22" wheels, that would be a cult thing, kind of like a microbus of the 21st century. Not a totally crazy idea, considering the Porsche finally succumbed to their hardcore fanbase and released the Cayenne GTS SUV with a 6-speed manny tranny, 0-60 5.7 sex.
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It's been 3 months now since I got my SC TurboX and I cant get tired of the exhaust note... especially the first start of the day, when it's cold and it growls for a minute on "choke"... It's a "neighbor wake-up call".
The manual tranny is the way to go on that car, as the automatic, even on sports mode, just kills the fun. I test drove both of them on a track in june (the official launch day in Montreal) and found that the automatic was never in the right gear in corners, and when using the "manual mode", it took half a second too long to change gear... I ended up pressing the "downshift" button twice before it changed, and overreved the engine a couple of times! As for the back seat, it's quite tigh (I have a 16 month old with forward facing seat in the middle) but liveable. Congrats to Kandiru for stuffing 3 kids back there! Other then that, it's a great driver's car, low-profile (that's my favorite part... surprising Audis, BMWs and so on...), exclusive, but yes quite expensive when you compare. But exclusivity has a price! I'm just surprised that some are left at the dealers, as all of them in montreal are sold... if you can get one at a discount price, go for it! |
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